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 Date: August 26, 2004 15:38
 Submitted by:  notyper
 Source: Anonymous
 Credibility Rating: 7


A reliable source tells us that the 06 Civic platform is set for some significant changes.

While the famed Honda double wishbone front suspension will not return (we're hearing this from enough sources in the US and abroad now to think its probably true), the strut setup will be significantly modified to improve handling and reduce bump steer. We hear this means a big change in the steering rack setup. Supposedly the rear suspension will be modified as well, although less is known on what will happen there.

On the powertrain front, we're hearing that the Civic lineup will incorporate direct injection. Does this mean we'll be seeing a variant of the current 2.0 DOHC i-VTEC I engine from the JDM Stream? It sure sounds like it to us. The i-VTEC I engine is essentially a high fuel economy version of the K-series, which resembles a K20A3 in terms of power production (150-160 hp), but returns a 10-15% gain in fuel economy. The Civic may incorporate some different variants on this engine for sport and economy oriented model trims.

Whether this means the D-series disappears is unknown to us at this point, but it seems at least a reasonable possibility. With the importation of the Fit/Jazz on the horizon (with L-series i-DSI engines), the Civic can move upstream, as many TOV members have predicted, and the need for a sub-2.0 liter engine diminishes. Furthermore, the incorporation of direct injection on the Civic fits with the model line's history of being very clean and green. Honda has rarely compromised fuel economy for performance (hence VTEC and its ilk) and such a compromise would be even more out of character with the Civic.

Incorporating the i-VTEC I engine line into the new Civic would provide Honda with a definite leg up on the competition. The model would be positioned as equivalent in power to its competition (Focus PZEV, Mazda3 2.3, etc. all in the 150-160 hp range) while offering significant fuel economy benefits (the Mazda3 2.3 is only rated at 25/32 on the EPA cycle).

Some of this is news I know Honda fans want to hear, while other bits (the retention of struts) are not. As a powertrain guy, I love to hear about improvements in power and economy, so I'm more optimistic now than ever before about the 06 Civic.
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08-30-2004 02:17
Atkinson cycle??   (Score: 1, Normal)
NSXman
09-01-2004 02:05
Re: Atkinson cycle??   (Score: 1, Normal)
Bollocks
09-02-2004 01:40
Re: Atkinson cycle??   (Score: 1, Normal)
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09-11-2004 23:25
Re: Atkinson cycle??   (Score: 1, Normal)
Bollocks
09-01-2004 15:03
Canadian Acura EL to have 1.8L with 155hp.   (Score: 1, Normal)
RSX
09-01-2004 22:56
Re: Canadian Acura EL to have 1.8L with 155hp.   (Score: 1, Normal)
robertoeuropean
09-02-2004 01:21
Re: Canadian Acura EL to have 1.8L with 155hp.   (Score: 1, Normal)
IMHO
08-27-2004 02:20
New Civic possibly akin to Mazda3?   (Score: 1, Normal)
RayChuang
09-01-2004 09:40
Re: New Civic possibly akin to Mazda3?   (Score: 1, Normal)
Honda-D
08-26-2004 16:32
This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
tmkarab
08-26-2004 19:50
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
Bollocks
08-26-2004 21:29
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
08-27-2004 21:39
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
tmkarab
08-27-2004 10:24
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
Dren
08-28-2004 12:25
torque steer in a '99 Si?   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
08-28-2004 19:33
Re: torque steer in a '99 Si?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-30-2004 11:25
Re: torque steer in a '99 Si?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-30-2004 11:29
Re: torque steer in a '99 Si?   (Score: 1, Normal)
Dren
08-30-2004 17:34
Re: torque steer in a '99 Si?   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
08-29-2004 11:01
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
shadowboy
08-29-2004 17:40
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
08-31-2004 09:02
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08-30-2004 20:46
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08-26-2004 22:20
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08-27-2004 10:11
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08-27-2004 11:02
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08-31-2004 11:21
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NSXman
09-01-2004 09:26
Re: This might be an understatement   (Score: 1, Normal)
Honda-D
08-26-2004 17:01
06 Civic   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-26-2004 17:35
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08-26-2004 18:20
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08-26-2004 18:33
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08-26-2004 19:34
Re: 06 Civic - Direct injection?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-26-2004 19:44
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08-26-2004 20:52
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08-27-2004 00:51
Re: 06 Civic - Direct injection?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 01:49
NYT article on direct injection, diesel   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 10:01
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08-27-2004 11:49
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08-27-2004 10:09
The "K20B" Story   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 21:50
Re: The "K20B" Story   (Score: 1, Normal)
cksi1372
08-30-2004 23:03
Direct Injection by stratified charge==Mitsubishi GDI   (Score: 1, Normal)
MacGyver
08-28-2004 03:44
still electric steering?   (Score: 1, Normal)
carlisimo
08-29-2004 00:10
Re: still electric steering?   (Score: 1, Normal)
Wizard
08-28-2004 18:41
i-VTEC engine   (Score: 1, Normal)
RSJ
08-26-2004 15:54
Now this makes sense (where the Jazz thing did not)   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
08-27-2004 00:53
Re: Now this makes sense (where the Jazz thing did not)   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 01:55
Re: Now this makes sense (where the Jazz thing did not)   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 23:54
Re: Now this makes sense (where the Jazz thing did not)   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 10:13
5 speed automatic?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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08-27-2004 10:33
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