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Sarasotasun
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Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-05-2008 19:00
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I still don't get it. Why everywhere else?
Ezmerelda
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-05-2008 19:49
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do you mean "projectors?"
2007RC46SP2
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-05-2008 21:46
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WTF Honda...
you can get HID's on the JDM Fit!
WHY!!! WHY!!!

why do they treat us this way.

make it an option I'm sure people will pay.
i know you need to have auto levelers and washers but damn come on, i would pay a $750-1000 premium on a fit or civic.

safety for everyone... (else)

blueSi
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I would pay extra for HIDs. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2008 01:46
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MINI charges $500 for projector HID headlights.

If Honda would just offer this option for the CR-V or Fit, I would be more than happy to pay for it.

GCustom
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Re: I would pay extra for HIDs. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2008 05:36
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There's still no good reason the Civic Hybrid doesn't have low power high output lights on the higher trims, it is in direct competition to the Prius according to Honda, but it has traditional halogens only, not even a dealer installed HID or Projector Beam accessory.
Mugen Power
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2008 07:41
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2007RC46SP2 wrote:
WTF Honda...
you can get HID's on the JDM Fit!
WHY!!! WHY!!!

why do they treat us this way.

make it an option I'm sure people will pay.
i know you need to have auto levelers and washers but damn come on, i would pay a $750-1000 premium on a fit or civic.

safety for everyone... (else)



I don't believe it's a law in the US to have auto leveling and headlight washers with HIDs like it is in Europe.

domn
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2008 07:47
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I wonder why the CR-V doesn't get one of the newer K24's from the Accord?
mlody
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2008 08:01
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HID are mainly the reason I still drive TL, not accord or even civic. there is nothing on the TL that I would miss moving to 2-door Accord but HID and I do not want to deal with aftermarket conventions.
VTECaddict
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2008 19:42
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domn wrote:
I wonder why the CR-V doesn't get one of the newer K24's from the Accord?

gotta save something for the MMC next year.

dodole
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 00:04
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2007RC46SP2 wrote:
WTF Honda...
you can get HID's on the JDM Fit!
WHY!!! WHY!!!

why do they treat us this way.

make it an option I'm sure people will pay.
i know you need to have auto levelers and washers but damn come on, i would pay a $750-1000 premium on a fit or civic.

safety for everyone... (else)


Remember US = watered down everything. remember civic 2 gen ago they already have HIDs and Nav as option in Japan but not here.. people are too cheap. If you put all that in a civic people will not buy Acura and Civic gonna be the entry level lux car.

swimjax
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 14:10
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mlody wrote:
HID are mainly the reason I still drive TL, not accord or even civic. there is nothing on the TL that I would miss moving to 2-door Accord but HID and I do not want to deal with aftermarket conventions.


Same here. I just can't live without HIDs now. The Accord has just about everything my TSX does (although it's bigger and I don't necessarily like that), but the missing HIDs bugs me. I'd deal with the larger size of the Accord if it offered HIDs.

swimjax
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 14:49
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mlody wrote:
HID are mainly the reason I still drive TL, not accord or even civic. there is nothing on the TL that I would miss moving to 2-door Accord but HID and I do not want to deal with aftermarket conventions.


Same here. I just can't live without HIDs now. The Accord has just about everything my TSX does (although it's bigger and I don't necessarily like that), but the missing HIDs bugs me. I'd deal with the larger size of the Accord if it offered HIDs.

80honda
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 15:00
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Seriously, no way I'm paying $1000 for some different headlights.
FAL
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 15:44
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80honda wrote:
Seriously, no way I'm paying $1000 for some different headlights.


More like $500 and that's my deductible if I hit a deer (or anything else).

CarPhreakD
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 18:09
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FAL wrote:
80honda wrote:
Seriously, no way I'm paying $1000 for some different headlights.


More like $500 and that's my deductible if I hit a deer (or anything else).



My thought on this is if you can't see something and react in time, you either shouldn't be driving (too slow to react or simply blind), or you're driving too fast and overrunning your headlights. Now if the deer just randomly jumped out, no amount of output in Lumens would save you.

On a mainstream vehicle like the Civic, Honda would probably need to charge about $1000; the reason why you see HIDs going for cheaper on luxury vehicles is just that- they make higher profits on luxury vehicles to begin with and people in that class usually buys HIDs en mass (vs. the majority of people who survive with normal halogens). The North American market also demands cheap, whereas in Japan premium small vehicles isn't oxymoronic.

The Accord Coupe comes with Projectors, so installing HIDs shouldn't be difficult.

2007RC46SP2
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2008 19:27
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80honda wrote:
Seriously, no way I'm paying $1000 for some different headlights.


most not of ever driven a vehicle with factory HID's
you'll never want anything else.

FAL
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-08-2008 01:24
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CarPhreakD wrote:
FAL wrote:
80honda wrote:
Seriously, no way I'm paying $1000 for some different headlights.


More like $500 and that's my deductible if I hit a deer (or anything else).



My thought on this is if you can't see something and react in time, you either shouldn't be driving (too slow to react or simply blind), or you're driving too fast and overrunning your headlights. Now if the deer just randomly jumped out, no amount of output in Lumens would save you.

On a mainstream vehicle like the Civic, Honda would probably need to charge about $1000; the reason why you see HIDs going for cheaper on luxury vehicles is just that- they make higher profits on luxury vehicles to begin with and people in that class usually buys HIDs en mass (vs. the majority of people who survive with normal halogens). The North American market also demands cheap, whereas in Japan premium small vehicles isn't oxymoronic.

The Accord Coupe comes with Projectors, so installing HIDs shouldn't be difficult.




You didn't seem to do too much thinking then, because HIDs throw a better pattern off to the sides, IME, allowing you to see what's lurking in the trees. Deer have an interesting way of blending into the shadows, day or night, and a few feet further visibility turning around a hairpin and a few feet more vision into the low hanging branches or brush can and do save your ass, even at 35 mph, which is a typical speed here on the twisty backroads and sidestreets in the hills of SW. OH and N. KY. I haven't gone a day yet without seeing one or two deer when driving, sometimes well over a dozen, and as often as not that's just in my front yard.

I seem to recall Mazda offered HIDs on the 3 for around $600 when they were a stand-alone option and not part of the Grand Touring trim level. Mass-production usually leads to a decrease in price, not an increase, as economies of scale are realized. Luxury buyers can afford to pay more, so why would a manufacturer discount their price for a low-volume, high-margin vehicle?

Sarasotasun
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-09-2008 12:24
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All I'm sayin is that I want this is the US:
http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/internet/Honda.com.au/Home/Showroom/CRV/

80honda
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Re: Still no HIDs on the U.S. CR-V [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-12-2008 00:02
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FAL wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
FAL wrote:
80honda wrote:
Seriously, no way I'm paying $1000 for some different headlights.


More like $500 and that's my deductible if I hit a deer (or anything else).



My thought on this is if you can't see something and react in time, you either shouldn't be driving (too slow to react or simply blind), or you're driving too fast and overrunning your headlights. Now if the deer just randomly jumped out, no amount of output in Lumens would save you.

On a mainstream vehicle like the Civic, Honda would probably need to charge about $1000; the reason why you see HIDs going for cheaper on luxury vehicles is just that- they make higher profits on luxury vehicles to begin with and people in that class usually buys HIDs en mass (vs. the majority of people who survive with normal halogens). The North American market also demands cheap, whereas in Japan premium small vehicles isn't oxymoronic.

The Accord Coupe comes with Projectors, so installing HIDs shouldn't be difficult.




You didn't seem to do too much thinking then, because HIDs throw a better pattern off to the sides, IME, allowing you to see what's lurking in the trees. Deer have an interesting way of blending into the shadows, day or night, and a few feet further visibility turning around a hairpin and a few feet more vision into the low hanging branches or brush can and do save your ass, even at 35 mph, which is a typical speed here on the twisty backroads and sidestreets in the hills of SW. OH and N. KY. I haven't gone a day yet without seeing one or two deer when driving, sometimes well over a dozen, and as often as not that's just in my front yard.

I seem to recall Mazda offered HIDs on the 3 for around $600 when they were a stand-alone option and not part of the Grand Touring trim level. Mass-production usually leads to a decrease in price, not an increase, as economies of scale are realized. Luxury buyers can afford to pay more, so why would a manufacturer discount their price for a low-volume, high-margin vehicle?




Well one big point. I live in the city, and we have street lights everywhere, so that $1000 for some extra light would be a waste of my money. . . . and I don't think I have ever seen a deer in Atlanta.


 
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