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pongkai
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Toyota and Ferrari data... roflmao    (Score: 2, Interesting) 12-03-2004 15:49
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excerpts from Atlas today. Siegmar Raupach, district attorney of Cologne, Germany, in an interview with Gazzetta dello Sport:
"We organized the search after a request of collaboration by Modena's district attorney, and two members of the Italian police took part," Raupach said. "[These] two policemen had been comprehensively instructed at Ferrari, in Maranello, so that they could be absolutely able to find, on Toyota's computers, the software programmes that were allegedly stolen from Ferrari.

"They found what they were looking for: a considerable amount of software, copied onto the wind tunnel's programs at Toyota."
The Italy courts want the data shipped to Italy to serve as evidence, but...
According to Raupach, "[Toyota] said: 'we have copied Ferrari's software programmes into our programmes and, if we now give them back the material, Ferrari will have an advantage. This is because our own programmes are now mixed with theirs and we can't work on them anymore. In other words, the Ferrari software is now mixed with the one belonging to us, and if we give it back, Ferrari will end up with more than what was stolen from them.'"
Toyota has responded, saying that the reports are misleading and create an incorrect impression and they regret their employees are involved in this alleged act, and that they are doing everything they can to cooperate, such and such, and that the delay of getting the data in question to Italy is the German DA's fault.

I am curious though, isn't it odd that the DA is making such bold statements to the media? Can they do that before the trial? Can't he get sued by Toyota? He's basically declaring Toyota cheators on his own authority!

Mr.Candlestick
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Re: Toyota and Ferrari data... roflmao    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-03-2004 19:54
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That is funny. I cant believe he would say that. If its true, Toyota should be banned from racing, just like Barry Bonds should be banned from Baseball -- neither will ever happen though. Oh wait, this is Italy, not America, they probably hold companies/people to a higher standard of accountability there.
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Re: Toyota and Ferrari data... roflmao    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-03-2004 23:06
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RE: Original Search warrant
AS Toyota employs around 400+ people, all highly paid in the area of Cologne the evidence must have been very convincing JUST to get the warrant.
Ferrari has very few (current) persons on the local (Cologne) payroll and was lilely NOT given the slightest benefit of a doubt.
Let's see Toyota, cheating, in a major racing series. It's deja-vu all over agian.
Here is a pool. How many races in before they break an engine seal. I'll put $20 on let's see Montreal na make it Malaysia.

VtecV6
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Re: Toyota and Ferrari data... Court Case won't matter    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-04-2004 00:34
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Well, I firmly believe Toyota's been using Ferrari data.

Even if Toyota personnel are found guilty, Toyota will not be banned from F1. The politics won't allow it.

1. F1 organizers want more Manufacturers involved because it legitimizes the sport and brings in more money.

2. Teams want Manufacturer involvement because they'll bring in more technical expertise and better engines and more money.

3. The engine situation has caused a shortage of engines. Toyota's deal with Jordan entrenches them deeper into the sport. F1 and FIA would not ban Toyota since it would mean two teams would be off the grid leaving the other teams to run third cars, costing teams more money.

Any way you slice it, Toyota will not suffer from the this mess. Just another footnote for the season.


 
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