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vh2k
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New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-14-2018 14:57
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vh2k
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-14-2018 15:00
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The mini crab claw taillights are now being touted as ďdragon tailĒ taillights. Nice!!!
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-14-2018 15:51
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I think the RDX will be a sell-out.
NealX
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-14-2018 16:32
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Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?
vh2k
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-14-2018 16:59
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NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.

Civicb18
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-15-2018 08:01
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It said ďsegment first 10 speed dual clutch automaticĒ.......itís a regular automatic!!

anime_man24
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-15-2018 17:07
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Civicb18 wrote:
It said ďsegment first 10 speed dual clutch automaticĒ.......itís a regular automatic!!



i thought it's dual clutch?

anime_man24
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-15-2018 17:09
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wow it's not, nvm
bnilhome
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-15-2018 18:00
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vh2k wrote:
NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.



Actually I think I read somewhere that the RDX is closer in size to RX than NX. I think the RDX will take some sales from the RX especially given the RX is the worst looking SUV since the Pontiac Aztec.

Civicb18
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 05:37
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bnilhome wrote:
vh2k wrote:
NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.



Actually I think I read somewhere that the RDX is closer in size to RX than NX. I think the RDX will take some sales from the RX especially given the RX is the worst looking SUV since the Pontiac Aztec.



To this day Iím not sure why the RX sells like it does. It drives like an old Camry, soft, no feel or personality whatsoever. Iím hoping the RDX sale figures can remain at their current rate or even rise to match or beat the RX as itís been the sales long for some time now.

vh2k
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 06:53
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Civicb18 wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
vh2k wrote:
NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.



Actually I think I read somewhere that the RDX is closer in size to RX than NX. I think the RDX will take some sales from the RX especially given the RX is the worst looking SUV since the Pontiac Aztec.



To this day Iím not sure why the RX sells like it does. It drives like an old Camry, soft, no feel or personality whatsoever.



So, youíre saying itís quiet, comfortable, and rides really nice?

Not to mention decent utility/practicality, luxury brand quality, strong brand reputation and loyalty?

I canít understand either. ;)

bnilhome
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 08:12
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Civicb18 wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
vh2k wrote:
NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.



Actually I think I read somewhere that the RDX is closer in size to RX than NX. I think the RDX will take some sales from the RX especially given the RX is the worst looking SUV since the Pontiac Aztec.



To this day Iím not sure why the RX sells like it does. It drives like an old Camry, soft, no feel or personality whatsoever. Iím hoping the RDX sale figures can remain at their current rate or even rise to match or beat the RX as itís been the sales long for some time now.



I agree with you that it's more about comfort than anything else (kind of like a Buick or Lincoln). I do see a lot of realtors that have always had the RX and just buy a new one every 2 or 3 years. Plus there are many out there that do not really care about a car's performance capabilities or exterior styling and just want something reliable that feels comfortable.

Fitdad
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 08:23
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vh2k wrote:
Civicb18 wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
vh2k wrote:
NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.



Actually I think I read somewhere that the RDX is closer in size to RX than NX. I think the RDX will take some sales from the RX especially given the RX is the worst looking SUV since the Pontiac Aztec.



To this day Iím not sure why the RX sells like it does. It drives like an old Camry, soft, no feel or personality whatsoever.



So, youíre saying itís quiet, comfortable, and rides really nice?

Not to mention decent utility/practicality, luxury brand quality, strong brand reputation and loyalty?

I canít understand either. ;)



My in laws and my parents both got a previous gen RX - on my recommendation actually - and itís the expected reliability that sells it and makes it an easy buy for many. I think theyíre both happy with their purchase. Although they both hate the new styling.

rev2damoon
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 08:56
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Reliability is actually a huge factor for many Lexus shoppers. There are others, but that is a big one. It's important to try to understand the reasons and driving factors behind the success of a competitor's model, rather than simply dismiss it as "mindless drones purchasing something they know nothing about...just because". People purchase or 'not' purchase vehicles for any combinations of reasons. Controversial styling may not be enough to negate other positive attributes in the eyes of some shoppers.

As an example, I would include the RDX on my radar based on its overall package, despite my dislike for the DPG...

bnilhome
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 09:44
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Reliability is actually a huge factor for many Lexus shoppers. There are others, but that is a big one. It's important to try to understand the reasons and driving factors behind the success of a competitor's model, rather than simply dismiss it as "mindless drones purchasing something they know nothing about...just because". People purchase or 'not' purchase vehicles for any combinations of reasons. Controversial styling may not be enough to negate other positive attributes in the eyes of some shoppers.

As an example, I would include the RDX on my radar based on its overall package, despite my dislike for the DPG...



I don't think anyone would disagree with what you stated, and I think there is a reason that Acura did not benchmark the RX or NX when the RDX was launched. Acura is targeting competitors with a greater focus on performance vs comfort so I think it's accurate for the RDX to be positioned against the X3 and Q5 while I think the Lexus RX and NX should be positioned against the Buick Enclave and Lincoln crossovers.

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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2018 13:58
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Civicb18 wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
vh2k wrote:
NealX wrote:
Isn't the NX more of a Mazda CX-5 competitor?


Practically speaking, it makes sense for Acura to position the RDX up against the NX. It compares much more favorably than trying to position against the RX.



Actually I think I read somewhere that the RDX is closer in size to RX than NX. I think the RDX will take some sales from the RX especially given the RX is the worst looking SUV since the Pontiac Aztec.



To this day Iím not sure why the RX sells like it does. It drives like an old Camry, soft, no feel or personality whatsoever. Iím hoping the RDX sale figures can remain at their current rate or even rise to match or beat the RX as itís been the sales long for some time now.



Basically,it's a luxurious Rav 4. i drove both the RX and Nx,the RX is closer to the RDX but doesn't match up well.The RDX is engineered to compete with the germans . i'm really curious to see what the 2020 MDX will be

Hondarulez
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-17-2018 02:09
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Before getting the 2019 RDX, my wife and I also test drove the CRV, Rav 4, and RX350.

My wife actually likes the Rav 4 hybird and RX350. The RX is really quiet and smooth, not to mention it's comfortable. The interior feels expensive.

Lexus isn't my cup of tea but I can definitely see why some people like the RX350. It's also using a V6 and 8AT found in the Camry, so reliability is pretty much guaranteed. And it runs on regular gas too!

It can sit 5 people comfortably, but the cargo room sucks. Its 18cu.ft capacity is barely better than a Accord sedan, and much worse than my CTR at 25cu.ft. The RDX? It's at 31cu.ft so it's not even comparable.

I think if the RX was $15k cheaper (Canadian Dollars), I'd have a much harder time convincing my wife to get the RDX. But when the RDX Elite platinum is $55k, and the RX350 with the top pkg is $70k, the decision was much easier.

rev2damoon
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-17-2018 08:00
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bnilhome wrote:
rev2damoon wrote:
Reliability is actually a huge factor for many Lexus shoppers. There are others, but that is a big one. It's important to try to understand the reasons and driving factors behind the success of a competitor's model, rather than simply dismiss it as "mindless drones purchasing something they know nothing about...just because". People purchase or 'not' purchase vehicles for any combinations of reasons. Controversial styling may not be enough to negate other positive attributes in the eyes of some shoppers.

As an example, I would include the RDX on my radar based on its overall package, despite my dislike for the DPG...



I don't think anyone would disagree with what you stated, and I think there is a reason that Acura did not benchmark the RX or NX when the RDX was launched. Acura is targeting competitors with a greater focus on performance vs comfort so I think it's accurate for the RDX to be positioned against the X3 and Q5 while I think the Lexus RX and NX should be positioned against the Buick Enclave and Lincoln crossovers.


I agree with you. Acura has indeed stated that they are focussing more on performance with their next generation of products. I think they've done an excellent job with how they've positioned the RDX.

bnilhome
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-17-2018 08:00
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Hondarulez wrote:
Before getting the 2019 RDX, my wife and I also test drove the CRV, Rav 4, and RX350.

My wife actually likes the Rav 4 hybird and RX350. The RX is really quiet and smooth, not to mention it's comfortable. The interior feels expensive.

Lexus isn't my cup of tea but I can definitely see why some people like the RX350. It's also using a V6 and 8AT found in the Camry, so reliability is pretty much guaranteed. And it runs on regular gas too!

It can sit 5 people comfortably, but the cargo room sucks. Its 18cu.ft capacity is barely better than a Accord sedan, and much worse than my CTR at 25cu.ft. The RDX? It's at 31cu.ft so it's not even comparable.

I think if the RX was $15k cheaper (Canadian Dollars), I'd have a much harder time convincing my wife to get the RDX. But when the RDX Elite platinum is $55k, and the RX350 with the top pkg is $70k, the decision was much easier.



Thanks for sharing. My parents have had Lexus vehicles in the past and what you described is accurate. It's a reliable and comfortable vehicle with some nice finishes inside, and the exterior used to be nice as well. Unfortunately they have screwed up their design especially with the RX, but I realize that design is subjective. I have driven and ridden in some recent Buicks too and to me Buick and Lexus are going after the same customer base, whereas Acura is targeting more performance-oriented luxury brands. The primary reason that buyers would cross-shop Lexus and Acura is that they are both Japanese carmakers and their mainstream companies (Toyota and Honda) have such a long history of producing reliable cars with great resale, but if Acura remains on track to distinguish its cars based on performance, the differentiation between Acura and Lexus will grow.

Power Of Dreams
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Re: New RDX vs NX Infomercial    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-17-2018 18:16
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bnilhome wrote:
rev2damoon wrote:
Reliability is actually a huge factor for many Lexus shoppers. There are others, but that is a big one. It's important to try to understand the reasons and driving factors behind the success of a competitor's model, rather than simply dismiss it as "mindless drones purchasing something they know nothing about...just because". People purchase or 'not' purchase vehicles for any combinations of reasons. Controversial styling may not be enough to negate other positive attributes in the eyes of some shoppers.

As an example, I would include the RDX on my radar based on its overall package, despite my dislike for the DPG...



I don't think anyone would disagree with what you stated, and I think there is a reason that Acura did not benchmark the RX or NX when the RDX was launched. Acura is targeting competitors with a greater focus on performance vs comfort so I think it's accurate for the RDX to be positioned against the X3 and Q5 while I think the Lexus RX and NX should be positioned against the Buick Enclave and Lincoln crossovers.



If Acura can deliver those performance benchmarks with Honda reliability and tolerable styling, they'll do well.

Lexus is basically the Japanese Mercedes (with Toyota reliability), when you want prestige, a quiet ride and don't really care about driving dynamics. I've driven a litany of E350s/300s or whatever their mainstream 6-cylinder E-classes are and I prefer the Accord V6, straight up. Never really found the appeal of those cars.


 
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