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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-16-2018 19:39
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CarPhreakD wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
Conservatives threatened to move to Canada?


Yes there were some willing to go anywhere to escape Obama's America. Now the reality is that few on either side of the aisle would follow through, and with Canada being so liberal, I doubt many Conservatives moved.



American conservatives threatened to move to a more socialist country that has universal healthcare, stricter business rules, higher cost of living and a high number of visible minorities and immigrants?

Did these people have a mistaken perception of what Canada is, or did they look at Winnipeg and assume it's like that everywhere? I'm honestly not understanding.



It was a protest to show just how far left Obama was trying to take the country. It was not exclusively Canada but just anywhere to get away from Obama. The same is now happening with the Alt left resistance opposing Trump any way possible. As I said earlier, I dont think many intended to follow through. We saw the same at the state level. There were groups trying to get Texas to secede when Obama was in office, and now California is talking about it with Trump in office.

Now back to the primary topic, Trump is the first POTUS in my lifetime that is trying to get fair trade with other counties. In the end my bet is that few tariffs will have staying power as their will be negotiations to the trade terms which is what Trump has intended all along.

HondaForever
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-16-2018 21:27
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bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
Conservatives threatened to move to Canada?


Yes there were some willing to go anywhere to escape Obama's America. Now the reality is that few on either side of the aisle would follow through, and with Canada being so liberal, I doubt many Conservatives moved.



American conservatives threatened to move to a more socialist country that has universal healthcare, stricter business rules, higher cost of living and a high number of visible minorities and immigrants?

Did these people have a mistaken perception of what Canada is, or did they look at Winnipeg and assume it's like that everywhere? I'm honestly not understanding.



It was a protest to show just how far left Obama was trying to take the country. It was not exclusively Canada but just anywhere to get away from Obama. The same is now happening with the Alt left resistance opposing Trump any way possible. As I said earlier, I dont think many intended to follow through. We saw the same at the state level. There were groups trying to get Texas to secede when Obama was in office, and now California is talking about it with Trump in office.

Now back to the primary topic, Trump is the first POTUS in my lifetime that is trying to get fair trade with other counties. In the end my bet is that few tariffs will have staying power as their will be negotiations to the trade terms which is what Trump has intended all along.


You do realize that the current global trading rules (WTO) were created at the initiative of the United States, right? Canada and Mexico did not impose NAFTA on us. We were the leader in pushing for the TPP etc., etc.

Not to overdo this fact that we are now furiously disowning institutions WE created, but the United Nations in not in New York City by accident and the Supreme Commander of NATO is always an American for obvious reasons.

Now, you can argue that all the Presidents from Harry Truman through Reagan all the way to Obama were suckers and were taken advantage of by the wily Germans and the crafty Canadians. If so, WE kept electing these idiots. In a democracy, the leaders are supposed to reflect/represent the electorate, so what does that say about us?

bnilhome
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-17-2018 08:40
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HondaForever wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
Conservatives threatened to move to Canada?


Yes there were some willing to go anywhere to escape Obama's America. Now the reality is that few on either side of the aisle would follow through, and with Canada being so liberal, I doubt many Conservatives moved.



American conservatives threatened to move to a more socialist country that has universal healthcare, stricter business rules, higher cost of living and a high number of visible minorities and immigrants?

Did these people have a mistaken perception of what Canada is, or did they look at Winnipeg and assume it's like that everywhere? I'm honestly not understanding.



It was a protest to show just how far left Obama was trying to take the country. It was not exclusively Canada but just anywhere to get away from Obama. The same is now happening with the Alt left resistance opposing Trump any way possible. As I said earlier, I dont think many intended to follow through. We saw the same at the state level. There were groups trying to get Texas to secede when Obama was in office, and now California is talking about it with Trump in office.

Now back to the primary topic, Trump is the first POTUS in my lifetime that is trying to get fair trade with other counties. In the end my bet is that few tariffs will have staying power as their will be negotiations to the trade terms which is what Trump has intended all along.


You do realize that the current global trading rules (WTO) were created at the initiative of the United States, right? Canada and Mexico did not impose NAFTA on us. We were the leader in pushing for the TPP etc., etc.

Not to overdo this fact that we are now furiously disowning institutions WE created, but the United Nations in not in New York City by accident and the Supreme Commander of NATO is always an American for obvious reasons.

Now, you can argue that all the Presidents from Harry Truman through Reagan all the way to Obama were suckers and were taken advantage of by the wily Germans and the crafty Canadians. If so, WE kept electing these idiots. In a democracy, the leaders are supposed to reflect/represent the electorate, so what does that say about us?



Yes many prior Presidents from both parties have failed to put the interests of Americans first. It does not mean that every POTUS was bad all around for engaging with these world institutions, they simply did not invest the time or energy to make sure things were done fairly. Regarding why we kept electing such leaders, the 2 party system has been so entrenched its difficult to undo. Just look at the 2016 Dem primary process where the DNC favored their establishment candidate over the more unconventional candidate.

As for taking a different approach to matters, just look at the North Korea situation...we had Clinton, Bush 43 and Obama who all did nothing tangible to help prevent NK from building nukes, and now we have an unorthodox outsider taking a non-establishment approach and so far it seems to be yielding some positive results. Its not going to happen overnight but it appears more progress has been made in the last 6 months than the prior 25 years.

HondaForever
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-17-2018 09:16
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bnilhome wrote:
HondaForever wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
Conservatives threatened to move to Canada?


Yes there were some willing to go anywhere to escape Obama's America. Now the reality is that few on either side of the aisle would follow through, and with Canada being so liberal, I doubt many Conservatives moved.



American conservatives threatened to move to a more socialist country that has universal healthcare, stricter business rules, higher cost of living and a high number of visible minorities and immigrants?

Did these people have a mistaken perception of what Canada is, or did they look at Winnipeg and assume it's like that everywhere? I'm honestly not understanding.



It was a protest to show just how far left Obama was trying to take the country. It was not exclusively Canada but just anywhere to get away from Obama. The same is now happening with the Alt left resistance opposing Trump any way possible. As I said earlier, I dont think many intended to follow through. We saw the same at the state level. There were groups trying to get Texas to secede when Obama was in office, and now California is talking about it with Trump in office.

Now back to the primary topic, Trump is the first POTUS in my lifetime that is trying to get fair trade with other counties. In the end my bet is that few tariffs will have staying power as their will be negotiations to the trade terms which is what Trump has intended all along.


You do realize that the current global trading rules (WTO) were created at the initiative of the United States, right? Canada and Mexico did not impose NAFTA on us. We were the leader in pushing for the TPP etc., etc.

Not to overdo this fact that we are now furiously disowning institutions WE created, but the United Nations in not in New York City by accident and the Supreme Commander of NATO is always an American for obvious reasons.

Now, you can argue that all the Presidents from Harry Truman through Reagan all the way to Obama were suckers and were taken advantage of by the wily Germans and the crafty Canadians. If so, WE kept electing these idiots. In a democracy, the leaders are supposed to reflect/represent the electorate, so what does that say about us?



Yes many prior Presidents from both parties have failed to put the interests of Americans first. It does not mean that every POTUS was bad all around for engaging with these world institutions, they simply did not invest the time or energy to make sure things were done fairly. Regarding why we kept electing such leaders, the 2 party system has been so entrenched its difficult to undo. Just look at the 2016 Dem primary process where the DNC favored their establishment candidate over the more unconventional candidate.

As for taking a different approach to matters, just look at the North Korea situation...we had Clinton, Bush 43 and Obama who all did nothing tangible to help prevent NK from building nukes, and now we have an unorthodox outsider taking a non-establishment approach and so far it seems to be yielding some positive results. Its not going to happen overnight but it appears more progress has been made in the last 6 months than the prior 25 years.


The consensus of expert opinion is that the meeting with NK has so far yielded nothing but a photo-op. But I suspect you listen to different experts, which is fine with me.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I must say that it is rare on TOV to have such dialogue without it degenerating into an insult fest. Clearly you and I see things differently, but I look forward to reading more of your posts. We will probably never agree on much (beside our love for Hondas), but who knows, we might learn something from each other. At the very least we'll get to see how others, who do not necessarily agree with us, came by their positions.

Once again, thanks for engaging with me on this subject.

bnilhome
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-17-2018 11:56
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HondaForever wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
HondaForever wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
bnilhome wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
Conservatives threatened to move to Canada?


Yes there were some willing to go anywhere to escape Obama's America. Now the reality is that few on either side of the aisle would follow through, and with Canada being so liberal, I doubt many Conservatives moved.



American conservatives threatened to move to a more socialist country that has universal healthcare, stricter business rules, higher cost of living and a high number of visible minorities and immigrants?

Did these people have a mistaken perception of what Canada is, or did they look at Winnipeg and assume it's like that everywhere? I'm honestly not understanding.



It was a protest to show just how far left Obama was trying to take the country. It was not exclusively Canada but just anywhere to get away from Obama. The same is now happening with the Alt left resistance opposing Trump any way possible. As I said earlier, I dont think many intended to follow through. We saw the same at the state level. There were groups trying to get Texas to secede when Obama was in office, and now California is talking about it with Trump in office.

Now back to the primary topic, Trump is the first POTUS in my lifetime that is trying to get fair trade with other counties. In the end my bet is that few tariffs will have staying power as their will be negotiations to the trade terms which is what Trump has intended all along.


You do realize that the current global trading rules (WTO) were created at the initiative of the United States, right? Canada and Mexico did not impose NAFTA on us. We were the leader in pushing for the TPP etc., etc.

Not to overdo this fact that we are now furiously disowning institutions WE created, but the United Nations in not in New York City by accident and the Supreme Commander of NATO is always an American for obvious reasons.

Now, you can argue that all the Presidents from Harry Truman through Reagan all the way to Obama were suckers and were taken advantage of by the wily Germans and the crafty Canadians. If so, WE kept electing these idiots. In a democracy, the leaders are supposed to reflect/represent the electorate, so what does that say about us?



Yes many prior Presidents from both parties have failed to put the interests of Americans first. It does not mean that every POTUS was bad all around for engaging with these world institutions, they simply did not invest the time or energy to make sure things were done fairly. Regarding why we kept electing such leaders, the 2 party system has been so entrenched its difficult to undo. Just look at the 2016 Dem primary process where the DNC favored their establishment candidate over the more unconventional candidate.

As for taking a different approach to matters, just look at the North Korea situation...we had Clinton, Bush 43 and Obama who all did nothing tangible to help prevent NK from building nukes, and now we have an unorthodox outsider taking a non-establishment approach and so far it seems to be yielding some positive results. Its not going to happen overnight but it appears more progress has been made in the last 6 months than the prior 25 years.


The consensus of expert opinion is that the meeting with NK has so far yielded nothing but a photo-op. But I suspect you listen to different experts, which is fine with me.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I must say that it is rare on TOV to have such dialogue without it degenerating into an insult fest. Clearly you and I see things differently, but I look forward to reading more of your posts. We will probably never agree on much (beside our love for Hondas), but who knows, we might learn something from each other. At the very least we'll get to see how others, who do not necessarily agree with us, came by their positions.

Once again, thanks for engaging with me on this subject.



Sure man...anytime. I am all for civil and peaceful debate of ideas.

incubus
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-17-2018 14:44
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CarPhreakD wrote:
That assertion is kind of interesting. If you're conservative and have a problem with Obama being in office, what other first world country can you go to that adheres to your viewpoints?

This, seriously. Our Overton window is shifted so far to the right economically from a global standpoint, that neo-libs like Obama and Clinton are firmly in conservative parties in most other countries.
God this place sucks when it gets political.
Tony, can you keep your conservative viewpoints to yourself for one week?

TonyEX
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-18-2018 15:13
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incubus wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
That assertion is kind of interesting. If you're conservative and have a problem with Obama being in office, what other first world country can you go to that adheres to your viewpoints?

This, seriously. Our Overton window is shifted so far to the right economically from a global standpoint, that neo-libs like Obama and Clinton are firmly in conservative parties in most other countries.
God this place sucks when it gets political.
Tony, can you keep your conservative viewpoints to yourself for one week?



I fear you are picking on me.... :-)

OK, but I still don't like Cristiano Ronaldo.... :-P

owequitit
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-18-2018 15:13
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HondaForever wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
That assertion is kind of interesting. If you're conservative and have a problem with Obama being in office, what other first world country can you go to that adheres to your viewpoints?

Ah, but they don't need to move to a first world country. All they need is to move to a country that shares their views on governance and policy. There are a few I may suggest:

For those who believe in:

1. Minimal to no government ... Somalia, Syria

2. Capital punishment, preferably without trial, for drug dealers... Duarte's Phillipines

3. Jail terms for abortions, Ireland (too late now)

4. A "strong leader" who is not constrained by "weak laws"... North Korea, Russia, Hungary

5. Expensive, "you are on your own healthcare which only the rich can afford"....any third world country

6. Elections designed to keep your favorite party in power by making sure those who will vote the wrong way don't vote... Russia, Texas, Tennessee

I think that should be enough options for now.... LoL




Those same arguments can be completely reversed 180* and apply to the liberals ideals as well.


Dren
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2018 07:25
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bnilhome wrote:

Sorry, perhaps I could have worded that better. I am a Conservative and I heard a great deal of moaning and groaning from my side about Obama, and many threatened to leave the US. The same happened when Trump was elected, you saw many elites on the 2 coasts threatening to move to Canada and elsewhere. Both sides do it, so that is actually one thing they have in common. :)



Whether you like Trump or not, it was utterly hilarious watching all of the major news broadcasters when he won. Nobody could believe it, so much shock and disappointment. I actually watched the news for once since it was so damn entertaining to watch those boobs cry. When Obama won, the majority were gushing over what a great president he was going to be.

Funny, when Oliver Stone interviewed Putin and asked him about the election and if he cared who won, Putin responded he doesn't care who the US president is because the foreign policy will never change. So true.

RMTRADER
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2018 10:25
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TonyEX wrote:
Oh oh...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobiles_manufactured_in_Ontario


And Alberta and Saskatchewan. They got energy and nice conservative people.




We would be up for that.

TonyEX
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Re: "American" cars made in Canada    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2018 19:43
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incubus wrote:


...
Tony, can you keep your conservative viewpoints to yourself for one week?



I'm trying hard. :-)


 
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