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Re: I just realized    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-22-2018 00:59
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Hondatalover wrote:
When I returned home I sat in the car at idle gathering a few things before heading inside and I thought I heard a rod knock or spun bearing. Something bad. It fluctuated with revs but when I disengaged the clutch the noise went away, so relived that it's probably just the $140 pilot bearing... lol Gotta do the rear main anyway and might as well do the clutch and throw out bearing while we're in there.


If you hear the noise with the engine idling, the transmission in neutral, and the clutch pedal out meaning you're spinning the input shaft of the transmission, your pilot bearing is static due to the input shaft spinning with the crankshaft. If the noise goes away or you maybe hear the noise slow to a stop when you push the clutch pedal in, it might be main shaft bearing noise in the transmission. It wouldn't hurt to change the transmission fluid/oil and see how much metal is mixed in with the old oil.

I can't speak for the Vigor but the 2G Integra used 5w-30 motor oil for the manual transmission whereas the 3G Integra used the then-new Honda MTF. Those two Integras seemed to have a similar shift feel but who knows.

There are always other, whack-o possible causes for the noise. A friend back in the '80s had one of the rubber bumper isolators break loose from the clutch disk in his Civic transmission. The bite point in the clutch travel included a strange chirp sound until he replaced the clutch assembly. At that time, you had to buy a Honda OEM clutch assembly to get the disk with the rubber bumper things instead of the usual springs.

https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/engine-cat/clutch-torque-converter-scat

I've heard of clutch disks shattering with parts striking parts too.

HDNBenjamin
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Re: I just realized    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-22-2018 01:18
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looking good! you have a very unique ride. i don't see many around if at all. needs a tint.
Hondatalover
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Re: I just realized    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-24-2018 17:39
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Grace141 wrote:
Hondatalover wrote:
When I returned home I sat in the car at idle gathering a few things before heading inside and I thought I heard a rod knock or spun bearing. Something bad. It fluctuated with revs but when I disengaged the clutch the noise went away, so relived that it's probably just the $140 pilot bearing... lol Gotta do the rear main anyway and might as well do the clutch and throw out bearing while we're in there.


If you hear the noise with the engine idling, the transmission in neutral, and the clutch pedal out meaning you're spinning the input shaft of the transmission, your pilot bearing is static due to the input shaft spinning with the crankshaft. If the noise goes away or you maybe hear the noise slow to a stop when you push the clutch pedal in, it might be main shaft bearing noise in the transmission. It wouldn't hurt to change the transmission fluid/oil and see how much metal is mixed in with the old oil.

I can't speak for the Vigor but the 2G Integra used 5w-30 motor oil for the manual transmission whereas the 3G Integra used the then-new Honda MTF. Those two Integras seemed to have a similar shift feel but who knows.

There are always other, whack-o possible causes for the noise. A friend back in the '80s had one of the rubber bumper isolators break loose from the clutch disk in his Civic transmission. The bite point in the clutch travel included a strange chirp sound until he replaced the clutch assembly. At that time, you had to buy a Honda OEM clutch assembly to get the disk with the rubber bumper things instead of the usual springs.

https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/engine-cat/clutch-torque-converter-scat

I've heard of clutch disks shattering with parts striking parts too.



Thanks Grace!

I wish Acura would name their parts more bluntly. Doesn't help they show you views facing opposite of where you're trying to look. Would any of these this be the main shaft bearing you speak of?

https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/transmission-manual-cat/mt-mainshaft-scat


Or any of these?
https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/transmission-manual-cat/mt-clutch-housing-scat



Transmissions are scary. Even the manuals.


Hondatalover
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Re: I just realized    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-24-2018 17:44
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Hondatalover wrote:
Grace141 wrote:
Hondatalover wrote:
When I returned home I sat in the car at idle gathering a few things before heading inside and I thought I heard a rod knock or spun bearing. Something bad. It fluctuated with revs but when I disengaged the clutch the noise went away, so relived that it's probably just the $140 pilot bearing... lol Gotta do the rear main anyway and might as well do the clutch and throw out bearing while we're in there.


If you hear the noise with the engine idling, the transmission in neutral, and the clutch pedal out meaning you're spinning the input shaft of the transmission, your pilot bearing is static due to the input shaft spinning with the crankshaft. If the noise goes away or you maybe hear the noise slow to a stop when you push the clutch pedal in, it might be main shaft bearing noise in the transmission. It wouldn't hurt to change the transmission fluid/oil and see how much metal is mixed in with the old oil.

I can't speak for the Vigor but the 2G Integra used 5w-30 motor oil for the manual transmission whereas the 3G Integra used the then-new Honda MTF. Those two Integras seemed to have a similar shift feel but who knows.

There are always other, whack-o possible causes for the noise. A friend back in the '80s had one of the rubber bumper isolators break loose from the clutch disk in his Civic transmission. The bite point in the clutch travel included a strange chirp sound until he replaced the clutch assembly. At that time, you had to buy a Honda OEM clutch assembly to get the disk with the rubber bumper things instead of the usual springs.

https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/engine-cat/clutch-torque-converter-scat

I've heard of clutch disks shattering with parts striking parts too.



Thanks Grace!

I wish Acura would name their parts more bluntly. Doesn't help they show you views facing opposite of where you're trying to look. Would any of these this be the main shaft bearing you speak of?

https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/transmission-manual-cat/mt-mainshaft-scat


Or any of these?
https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-parts/1994/acura/vigor-sedan/gs-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/transmission-manual-cat/mt-clutch-housing-scat



Transmissions are scary. Even the manuals.




Please ignore me. I found it. A discontinued part, would'ya look at that!

91004-PW8-008 Bearing, Ball (29X89X24)


 
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