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ivtec105
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Saturn ION with a Honda V6    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 11:05
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WTF, really

In general, we came away from the Ion unimpressed.
-Big surprise

Although we see genuine merit in the Ion coupe's additional doors, they're not enough to make up for mediocre seats and undistinguished performance.
-Uh huh yah, this is where it gets bad

But with Saturn's forthcoming Ion Red Line series coupe, that should all change. With the promise of around 200 horsepower, supportive sport seats and a tightened-up suspension, the Red Line could pump a lot of life into the nearly flat-lined Ion.
- ....WTF

Please someone tell me that the 200hp J series engine did not make it's way into a Saturn and worst of all a ION QUAD COUPE, and that edmunds got it wrong. I know that a detuned J30 will be in the Vue but an ION.

Edmunds Article

swmtam
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Re: Saturn ION with a Honda V6    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 11:30
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I think the ION's 200hp engine is supposed to be a supercharged version of GM's 2.2L.

The Vue is supposed to get a detuned Honda 3.5L V6.


ivtec105
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Re: Saturn ION Redline    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 11:36
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OH that makes sense. They are going to supercharge that Ecotec engine? How reliable and enjoyable will that be to drive. The Ion is so floppy as is. I have been in the last gen SC and that was all over the road. And the ION has gotten very luke warm reviews so far. I don't supercaharging will help any
kablamo
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Re: Saturn ION Redline    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 13:35
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i think the pontiac solstice concept was also supposed to have a supercharged ecotec engine - with 250hp or something...

i'd still take an s2000 though... 9000rpm is a lot cooler than a supercharger :)

dydx
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Re: Saturn ION with a Honda V6    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 13:53
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swmtam wrote:
The Vue is supposed to get a detuned Honda 3.5L V6.


Detuned? I think the press release states that the Vue will get 260hp from the Honda 3.5L. I'm guessing that's why the Acura MDX will bump from 260hp to 265hp.

swmtam
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Re: Saturn ION with a Honda V6    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 14:48
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I guess you're right about the engine not really being detuned. I thought that the Vue was only supposed to be 240hp, so that would still be equivalent to the Odyssey and Pilot in terms of HP.

Even though it's a Saturn, you have to admit that putting the 3.5L 240hp engine into something the size of a CR-V would be interesting. Hmmm, that's an idea...a 3.5L CR-V! Yeah! :)

Karl O.
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Re: Saturn ION with a Honda V6    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2003 14:59
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swmtam wrote:
I think the ION's 200hp engine is supposed to be a supercharged version of GM's 2.2L.

The Vue is supposed to get a detuned Honda 3.5L V6.




I could be wrong- but I thought I read that the supercharged engine would be a version of a European GM engine 2.0L because the 2.2L did not work well with the supercharger.

I hope Saturn finally gets it right, it would be really nice to have some decent American cars to choose from.

ivtec105
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Re: Saturn ION with a Honda V6    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2003 01:18
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Oh I thought honda had an agreement like Chevy's Corvette team has with Caddy. that the production engine will be detuned so honda won't loose business.

Ohand which 3.5L V6 are they getting the 90 degree RL or narrower MDX\Odyessy



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