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CarPhreakD
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Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 15:03
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The use of the K24/8DCT combo across all trims was sorely needed. So I'm actually surprised that Acura did it.

I'm also happy to see the return of the A-spec appearance pack, though this time it's a factory option.

The exterior is a vast improvement. This is worthy of an entry level luxury car. Interior... uh... well I guess I need to see in person but I doubt it's close to Audi level.

But what about pricing? This is the biggest point because right now the car is, on paper, somewhat competitive with the CLA 250 and the A3.

Colin
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 15:09
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CarPhreakD wrote:
The use of the K24/8DCT combo across all trims was sorely needed. So I'm actually surprised that Acura did it.

I'm also happy to see the return of the A-spec appearance pack, though this time it's a factory option.

The exterior is a vast improvement. This is worthy of an entry level luxury car. Interior... uh... well I guess I need to see in person but I doubt it's close to Audi level.

But what about pricing? This is the biggest point because right now the car is, on paper, somewhat competitive with the CLA 250 and the A3.


I wondering, short of the S3, what is the most expensive A3 variant you could make? I'm thinking this because the ILX will only have one engine, it may not compare directly with the S line.

Colin
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 15:19
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Colin wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
The use of the K24/8DCT combo across all trims was sorely needed. So I'm actually surprised that Acura did it.

I'm also happy to see the return of the A-spec appearance pack, though this time it's a factory option.

The exterior is a vast improvement. This is worthy of an entry level luxury car. Interior... uh... well I guess I need to see in person but I doubt it's close to Audi level.

But what about pricing? This is the biggest point because right now the car is, on paper, somewhat competitive with the CLA 250 and the A3.


I wondering, short of the S3, what is the most expensive A3 variant you could make? I'm thinking this because the ILX will only have one engine, it may not compare directly with the S line.


I did a quick check, a FWD Prestige with the 1.8L 170 hp engine with Metallic Paint ($550) the Sport Package ($800 this forces an $800 add to interior trim) and Advanced Tech ($1400) is $41,100. I'm assuming it includes navigation.

Knowing this, could they charge over $35K for a Tech A-Spec? It would seem logical but it's getting to be rarefied air for the Acura brands smallest car.

longhorn
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 15:56
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Didn't Acura state 2.4 and Auto did not fit under the hood, what changed?
Colin
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 16:16
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longhorn wrote:
Didn't Acura state 2.4 and Auto did not fit under the hood, what changed?

The 8DCT is shorter than the 5AT.

JeffX
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 16:28
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longhorn wrote:
Didn't Acura state 2.4 and Auto did not fit under the hood, what changed?


this is the DCT which is considerably smaller than the 5AT.

CarPhreakD
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 16:32
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Colin wrote:
Colin wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
The use of the K24/8DCT combo across all trims was sorely needed. So I'm actually surprised that Acura did it.

I'm also happy to see the return of the A-spec appearance pack, though this time it's a factory option.

The exterior is a vast improvement. This is worthy of an entry level luxury car. Interior... uh... well I guess I need to see in person but I doubt it's close to Audi level.

But what about pricing? This is the biggest point because right now the car is, on paper, somewhat competitive with the CLA 250 and the A3.


I wondering, short of the S3, what is the most expensive A3 variant you could make? I'm thinking this because the ILX will only have one engine, it may not compare directly with the S line.


I did a quick check, a FWD Prestige with the 1.8L 170 hp engine with Metallic Paint ($550) the Sport Package ($800 this forces an $800 add to interior trim) and Advanced Tech ($1400) is $41,100. I'm assuming it includes navigation.

Knowing this, could they charge over $35K for a Tech A-Spec? It would seem logical but it's getting to be rarefied air for the Acura brands smallest car.



I'm assuming this car will be priced competitive to both the TLX and the A3.

Hondarulez
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 18:09
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JeffX wrote:
longhorn wrote:
Didn't Acura state 2.4 and Auto did not fit under the hood, what changed?


this is the DCT which is considerably smaller than the 5AT.



Is the DCT also lighter than the 5AT?

CivicB18
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 18:20
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Colin wrote:
Colin wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
The use of the K24/8DCT combo across all trims was sorely needed. So I'm actually surprised that Acura did it.

I'm also happy to see the return of the A-spec appearance pack, though this time it's a factory option.

The exterior is a vast improvement. This is worthy of an entry level luxury car. Interior... uh... well I guess I need to see in person but I doubt it's close to Audi level.

But what about pricing? This is the biggest point because right now the car is, on paper, somewhat competitive with the CLA 250 and the A3.


I wondering, short of the S3, what is the most expensive A3 variant you could make? I'm thinking this because the ILX will only have one engine, it may not compare directly with the S line.


I did a quick check, a FWD Prestige with the 1.8L 170 hp engine with Metallic Paint ($550) the Sport Package ($800 this forces an $800 add to interior trim) and Advanced Tech ($1400) is $41,100. I'm assuming it includes navigation.

Knowing this, could they charge over $35K for a Tech A-Spec? It would seem logical but it's getting to be rarefied air for the Acura brands smallest car.



The 1.8t is the base drivetrain for the A3. There are 2.0t Quattro versions and the TDI which are pricier vs the 1.8t.

owequitit
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 19:01
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CivicB18 wrote:
Colin wrote:
Colin wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
The use of the K24/8DCT combo across all trims was sorely needed. So I'm actually surprised that Acura did it.

I'm also happy to see the return of the A-spec appearance pack, though this time it's a factory option.

The exterior is a vast improvement. This is worthy of an entry level luxury car. Interior... uh... well I guess I need to see in person but I doubt it's close to Audi level.

But what about pricing? This is the biggest point because right now the car is, on paper, somewhat competitive with the CLA 250 and the A3.


I wondering, short of the S3, what is the most expensive A3 variant you could make? I'm thinking this because the ILX will only have one engine, it may not compare directly with the S line.


I did a quick check, a FWD Prestige with the 1.8L 170 hp engine with Metallic Paint ($550) the Sport Package ($800 this forces an $800 add to interior trim) and Advanced Tech ($1400) is $41,100. I'm assuming it includes navigation.

Knowing this, could they charge over $35K for a Tech A-Spec? It would seem logical but it's getting to be rarefied air for the Acura brands smallest car.



The 1.8t is the base drivetrain for the A3. There are 2.0t Quattro versions and the TDI which are pricier vs the 1.8t.



If Acura kept the MSRP the same, but was able to discount less, that in and of itself would be a huge improvement.

However, I don't think they are going to have much luck getting above $32K or so for any version. You can get into a pretty nicely equipped A3 2.0T for about $36K and this car will trail in interior execution, overall performance (the 2.0 AWD is on par with the TLX V6), and won't have available AWD. It also won't have the brand cache.

Maybe Acura is just hoping to stem the losses by not having to put $4-5K on the hood to still not meet targets.

Also, considering Acura's statement of AWD for all models by 2016 (or was it 17), this is probably a stop-gap MMC until the new car comes out, since this one is clearly not getting AWD.

NoBrainer
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-20-2014 22:57
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A 30 pin cable would set you back for $350.
Hondarulez
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-21-2014 02:41
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I think most people would cross shop the ILX with the A3 1.8T. I don't think people who are considering the 2.0T model would pay much attention to the ILX. People looking at the 2.0T will be looking for performance and/or AWD. Also, a fully loaded A3 2.0T Prestige is at $46k. A fully loaded ILX will probably be at $33k or something, keeping in mind that the existing ILX tech is just below $32k. An A3 2.0T starts at $33k for comparison, and the feature set wouldn't be comparable.
Nick GravesX
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-21-2014 06:22
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Hondarulez wrote:
JeffX wrote:
longhorn wrote:
Didn't Acura state 2.4 and Auto did not fit under the hood, what changed?


this is the DCT which is considerably smaller than the 5AT.



Is the DCT also lighter than the 5AT?



Yes; they typically weigh little more than a conventional automated manual, given the extra layshaft, clutch plate (and in Honda's case) lock-up torque converter.

Slushboxes (used to be) bulky & heavy.

NoBrainer
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Re: Powertrain and A-Spec [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 11-21-2014 11:59
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In an Audi A3:

A 30 pin cable would set you back for $350.


 
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