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TonyEX
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Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 14:39
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Why do people stop on the damn freeway to LOOK at big ass brush fires?

I mean, yeah, it gets very smokey, specially when the flames are next to the freeway (the I5) or a scant 1/16th of a mile going up a ridge.... But my first thought, my main reaction is to nail the gas and get the heck out of there, PRONTO! ADIOS!

But, nooo, people want to slow down, to stop and take pictures. Some morons were even getting out of their cars to shoot video with their smart phone. WTH?

At least, the freeways got quiet and many folks went home early, so I was able to take some pictures with my cell phone of a couple of fires in my commute.. plus smoke for three more. I did it at 70 mph, naturally.

And both the I5 and I15 were shutdown for hours in the midday. The fire off the I15 up on Fallbrook was on the backside of Camp Pendleton. in some place called Ammunition Rd.! - I kid you NOT-. It's in the Navy Ammo Depot. That's definitely NOT the place you wanna be when the brush fire comes up. OoopS!

Jeez! I've never seen so many brush fires, so close, at the same time. I mean I survived the Laguna Fire eons ago, even if the next morning I woke up with The Hangover From Hell earned by drinking single malt scotch while hosing down the shake roof. I guess that drinking and climbing tall ladders seemed like a fine thing to do at the time... I guess. At least the roof survived and I had a stash of aspirins for the AM.

Today it's even hotter, well over 100F, but at least those 30++ mph winds have died down. We had to water the tomato plants THREE times the last two days, and I had to run the yard sprinklers twice a day as well because it has been so dry and so windy.

Oh... I did NOT stop, I only slowed down a little bit.

The HAH is almost immune to cross wiinds, but the mileage drops by 10% when you drive into a 30 mph wind -for obvious reasons.

superchg2
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 15:29
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TonyEX, I'm surprised you are not on water restrictions in SoCal at this point in time.
TonyEX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 15:37
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superchg2 wrote:
TonyEX, I'm surprised you are not on water restrictions in SoCal at this point in time.


In the OC we have had a very aggressive water recycling system for decades.

Besides my garden/yard is not exactly "big".

4thaccord
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 15:48
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Taking pictures while driving is just as dumb, if not dumber, than pulling over to take videos. There could be a child in the car in front of you that you ram into while snapping a photo that you don't need. And yes, it CAN happen to you.
TonyEX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 16:13
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4thaccord wrote:
Taking pictures while driving is just as dumb, if not dumber, than pulling over to take videos. There could be a child in the car in front of you that you ram into while snapping a photo that you don't need. And yes, it CAN happen to you.



(1) As I noted, the freeways were about empty! I had NO cars around me.

(2) Pulling over the shoulder on a freeway is not only unsafe but it's also illegal unless you have an emergency.

(3) I only took pictures while driving on a SEVEN lane freeway that was empty. OK, I took some on a FOUR lane intercity freeway too, but the traffic was extremely light and the pictures were STRAIGHT AHEAD.

Now, would you like to take that back?

Jeez... Spanish Inquisition I can take, but someone who doesn't read what I post and then unloads on me...

superchg2
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 16:36
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TonyEX wrote:
4thaccord wrote:
Taking pictures while driving is just as dumb, if not dumber, than pulling over to take videos. There could be a child in the car in front of you that you ram into while snapping a photo that you don't need. And yes, it CAN happen to you.



(1) As I noted, the freeways were about empty! I had NO cars around me.

(2) Pulling over the shoulder on a freeway is not only unsafe but it's also illegal unless you have an emergency.

(3) I only took pictures while driving on a SEVEN lane freeway that was empty. OK, I took some on a FOUR lane intercity freeway too, but the traffic was extremely light and the pictures were STRAIGHT AHEAD.

Now, would you like to take that back?

Jeez... Spanish Inquisition I can take, but someone who doesn't read what I post and then unloads on me...


Have a drink (when you get home) and smoke a cigar, and you'll feel better TonyEX.

4thaccord
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-15-2014 22:16
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(A) It doesn't matter if the freeway was completely empty in every direction for 2 miles, or if it was bumper to bumper traffic at rush hour. Actual skilled drivers know that when you're behind the wheel of a 2-ton car at 70 mph, you pay attention to the road, with both hands on the wheel, and don't take out your phone and take pictures.

(B) Straight ahead, selfie, backwards out the window, out the sunroof, it doesn't matter: it causes you to take one hand off the wheel, get the phone, hold it up, and take the picture.

(C) Ever hear of pot holes? Frost heaves? Cracks in the road? Fallen branches? Rocks? Anything that can cause the car to lose control that isn't related at all to other cars being around?

(D) Thoughtful responses I can take, but someone who doesn't UNDERSTAND what I post...Jeez.

(E) Yes, it CAN and WILL happen to you if you don't learn. And no matter how much you try (unsuccessfully) to defend it, you know it.

CarPhreakD
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 09:46
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4thaccord wrote:
(A) It doesn't matter if the freeway was completely empty in every direction for 2 miles, or if it was bumper to bumper traffic at rush hour. Actual skilled drivers know that when you're behind the wheel of a 2-ton car at 70 mph, you pay attention to the road, with both hands on the wheel, and don't take out your phone and take pictures.

(B) Straight ahead, selfie, backwards out the window, out the sunroof, it doesn't matter: it causes you to take one hand off the wheel, get the phone, hold it up, and take the picture.

(C) Ever hear of pot holes? Frost heaves? Cracks in the road? Fallen branches? Rocks? Anything that can cause the car to lose control that isn't related at all to other cars being around?

(D) Thoughtful responses I can take, but someone who doesn't UNDERSTAND what I post...Jeez.

(E) Yes, it CAN and WILL happen to you if you don't learn. And no matter how much you try (unsuccessfully) to defend it, you know it.



Tony lives in California. I don't think he knows what frost heaves are.

And this post is hilarious. Speaking of someone who doesn't get laid...

6SPDTL
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 10:23
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The joys of California! Earthquakes fires, droughts, and 'Niners!!
6SPDTL
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 10:43
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BTW the correct term would be atavistic fascination, in layman terms like a deer caught up in headlights.
Nick GravesX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 11:23
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We call them rubberneckers; when there's an accident on the motorway, inevitably some moron slows down to gawp at it & causes one in the other direction too...


TonyEX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 14:43
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CarPhreakD wrote:
4thaccord wrote:
(A) It doesn't matter if the freeway was completely empty in every direction for 2 miles, or if it was bumper to bumper traffic at rush hour. Actual skilled drivers know that when you're behind the wheel of a 2-ton car at 70 mph, you pay attention to the road, with both hands on the wheel, and don't take out your phone and take pictures.

(B) Straight ahead, selfie, backwards out the window, out the sunroof, it doesn't matter: it causes you to take one hand off the wheel, get the phone, hold it up, and take the picture.

(C) Ever hear of pot holes? Frost heaves? Cracks in the road? Fallen branches? Rocks? Anything that can cause the car to lose control that isn't related at all to other cars being around?

(D) Thoughtful responses I can take, but someone who doesn't UNDERSTAND what I post...Jeez.

(E) Yes, it CAN and WILL happen to you if you don't learn. And no matter how much you try (unsuccessfully) to defend it, you know it.



Tony lives in California. I don't think he knows what frost heaves are.

And this post is hilarious. Speaking of someone who doesn't get laid...



The I5 and I15 are concrete interstates with NO potholes, no rocks, no frost heaves, etc... The only thing I have to watch out for is tourists who keep gawking at the Pacific and slow down in the fast lane. Like as if they had never seen an ocean or figure they might make out the lights of Kanehoe 2500 miles away..

SR78 is an asphalt three lane freeway. It is laid out a bit tighter but it has an incredibly smooth ride. The only thing to watch out for is slow locals who retired in San Marcos and now have to mix and match their old Buicks with students at Cal State San Marcos in their Hyundais and old Civics.

I'm getting damn good at taking pictures while driving now. ;-D

Traffic has been very light lately. The old folks are at home clutching their oxygen tanks and the University has been closed.

TonyEX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 14:47
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Nick GravesX wrote:
We call them rubberneckers; when there's an accident on the motorway, inevitably some moron slows down to gawp at it & causes one in the other direction too...




Like all Californians, people are sort of getting used to the fires scene.

Traffic is light as the old folks in San Marcos ( big retiree community ) are staying home clutching their oxygen tanks and the University is closed.

Speeds are back up to 80. Not much rubbernecking anymore.

It's like, "Oh.. another fire.. Big deal".

superchg2
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 14:55
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TonyEX wrote:
Nick GravesX wrote:
We call them rubberneckers; when there's an accident on the motorway, inevitably some moron slows down to gawp at it & causes one in the other direction too...




Like all Californians, people are sort of getting used to the fires scene.

Traffic is light as the old folks in San Marcos ( big retiree community ) are staying home clutching their oxygen tanks and the University is closed.

Speeds are back up to 80. Not much rubbernecking anymore.

It's like, "Oh.. another fire.. Big deal".


It's just another day in Paradise.

TonyEX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-16-2014 14:57
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Dang it... it ain't stopping.

As the "old" fires are slowing down, new fires are propping.

Going home last night there was a new fire in North Camp Pendleton, in one of the Canyons.

Well, today that fire was put out but a new BIG fire has sprouted around a few miles south. It could be that some embers traveled down a bit since it was sort of windy last evening.

So now Camp Pendleton has two big fires:

Pulgas Fire, by Las Pulgas off the I5. A BIG NEW FIRE. Currently 8000 acres. I saw this one driving down the I5 and it's like a three or more fire front of burning on the Western Hills of Pendleton. It's close to the buildings but I figured the Jar Heads will do their usual and handle it with aplomb.

Tomahawk Fire. This one has been going for days now. It's like 6300 acres and it has been burning on the East side of Pendleton towards the I15.

I managed to take pictures of the Pulgas Fire. It's impressive but I must say that seeing those twin HUGE smoke columns rising in Pendleton is somewhat distressing. Not much wind.

I figured the Marines are Semper Fi, not Semper Fire.

The San Marcos fire has died down for a bit. And the entire OC is like smoked out. Remember the Cheech and Chong movie where they smoke that huge joint in the Chevy and they can't see out because of all the smoke inside the car? Today, the OC feels that way.

Traffic is light and back up to speed.




Nick GravesX
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Re: Fire Ahead, Fire Behind, Fire to the Left, Fire to the Right    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-17-2014 11:22
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Imagine all that CO^2.

How many Californians must buy a Hybrid to even that out and stop us all apparently boiling?


 
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