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gofast182
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Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 09:39
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As long as we could have an independent rear suspension and they could make a coupe out of it, this model would be head and shoulders above the USDM Civic in terms of styling, materials, and refinement. If Honda really wants to shake the segment up here, they should bring this over as intact as possible...and the Type-R.
CanTeX
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 10:10
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If Ford and Mazda can sell hatches here, why can't Honda???
gt
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 10:20
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CanTex wrote:
If Ford and Mazda can sell hatches here, why can't Honda???


Because Honda SUCKS ... when they DID bring a Hatch over 10 years ago - the 2002 to 2005 Civic Si (or SIR in Canada), they screw it up and swap out the wonderful type R 200HP K20A with a economy vtec engine, of course, no one will buy a Type R Hatch back with an economy engine in it, so sales when to toilet .... and Honda's management CONCLUDED Honda CANNOT SELL HATCH!!!!




gofast182
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 10:47
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Well they clearly have the kit to do it as long as they don't hold the product back for assumed/made-up reasons like they so often do.
The Legend
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 11:10
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nope.jpg


this euro wagon is too region specific


besides... doesnt his euro civic come with inferior torsion beam suspension?

Hondarulez
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 14:19
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gofast182 wrote:
As long as we could have an independent rear suspension and they could make a coupe out of it, this model would be head and shoulders above the USDM Civic in terms of styling, materials, and refinement. If Honda really wants to shake the segment up here, they should bring this over as intact as possible...and the Type-R.


Problem is the OTR price of a base Civic 1.8 MT in UK is 18,170. That's equivalent to USD$27.5k. The top-spec EX GT Civic 1.8 AT? That's 26,135, or USD$39.5k. Now factor in the cost of independent rear suspension.

Are people willing to fork out that kind of money on a Civic in the US?

JP
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 14:50
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Hondarulez wrote:
gofast182 wrote:
As long as we could have an independent rear suspension and they could make a coupe out of it, this model would be head and shoulders above the USDM Civic in terms of styling, materials, and refinement. If Honda really wants to shake the segment up here, they should bring this over as intact as possible...and the Type-R.


Problem is the OTR price of a base Civic 1.8 MT in UK is 18,170. That's equivalent to USD$27.5k. The top-spec EX GT Civic 1.8 AT? That's 26,135, or USD$39.5k. Now factor in the cost of independent rear suspension.

Are people willing to fork out that kind of money on a Civic in the US?



Rebadge it as Acura **X and problem solved!

xBeastx
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 16:39
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JP wrote:
Hondarulez wrote:
gofast182 wrote:
As long as we could have an independent rear suspension and they could make a coupe out of it, this model would be head and shoulders above the USDM Civic in terms of styling, materials, and refinement. If Honda really wants to shake the segment up here, they should bring this over as intact as possible...and the Type-R.


Problem is the OTR price of a base Civic 1.8 MT in UK is 18,170. That's equivalent to USD$27.5k. The top-spec EX GT Civic 1.8 AT? That's 26,135, or USD$39.5k. Now factor in the cost of independent rear suspension.

Are people willing to fork out that kind of money on a Civic in the US?



Rebadge it as Acura **X and problem solved!


But I thought another thread already discussed this to death...no rebadging Honda products with an "A" and calling it a luxury car!

bluefz22
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 18:16
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Very nice but we are getting the Urban SUV over here in 2014.

TL_06
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2013 19:40
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Hondarulez wrote:
gofast182 wrote:
As long as we could have an independent rear suspension and they could make a coupe out of it, this model would be head and shoulders above the USDM Civic in terms of styling, materials, and refinement. If Honda really wants to shake the segment up here, they should bring this over as intact as possible...and the Type-R.


Problem is the OTR price of a base Civic 1.8 MT in UK is 18,170. That's equivalent to USD$27.5k. The top-spec EX GT Civic 1.8 AT? That's 26,135, or USD$39.5k. Now factor in the cost of independent rear suspension.

Are people willing to fork out that kind of money on a Civic in the US?



I'd pull out the VAT from UK prices, and I'd also adjust for the general non-competitiveness of retailing in the UK. (Look at VW UK vs. VW USA prices for equivalently-equipped vehicles.) But, no I don't think there's too much demand for $30K Civics in the U.S. at present.

Hondarulez
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-06-2013 12:41
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Yea haha, this can be called the ILX tourer or something.

Yea, forget about the $40k Civic. If Acura is having trouble selling a $30k ILX, I doubt Honda can do any better with a $30k Civic. Top of the line Civic EX-L with Navi is just below $24k for comparison. At $30k, you can get an Accord EX-L V6.

jero
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-07-2013 11:56
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IMO Honda could easily sell a limited run of CTRs in the US with an estimated 265-300hp for $30k. Probably $35k even, since the dealers will be marking them up to this anyway.

The media accolades will pay for itself in spades, and give Honda the impression they do have some gonads after all.

integrator
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-08-2013 22:34
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Doesn't matter if I like the look of this Euro Civic, or its wagon variant. The fact is its a cheaper version and not worth whatever they'd charge to bring it over from Swindon. Its all built on Fit mechanicals. They need to stop dicking around with low-end suspensions. Fvk the flat floors. Its called engineering - find another way but put a multilink and front doubt wishbone in the next version. Those are the suspensions Honda is good at. The rest is junk.
CarPhreakD
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-08-2013 22:36
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What do you call a Honda Fit without magic seats and a conventional Chassis layout?

A Yaris.

xBeastx
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Re: Bring this Euro Civic to the US! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-10-2013 09:05
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jero wrote:
IMO Honda could easily sell a limited run of CTRs in the US with an estimated 265-300hp for $30k. Probably $35k even, since the dealers will be marking them up to this anyway.

The media accolades will pay for itself in spades, and give Honda the impression they do have some gonads after all.


Just like they did for the previous Type-R!


 
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