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CivicB18
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Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 13:59
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My dad brings home a new Avalon last night and calls me to come over to see what I think of it.

Exterior: more interesting looking as well as more upscale.

Interior: I actually like the interior as its just different. Materials, fit and finish are top notch but the rear seat seemed smaller vs the last generation.

Drivetrain: strong, smooth drivetrain with snappy acceleration.

Dynamics: its still an Avalon but its much more composed vs previous generations.

Build quality: EXCELLENT! The thwump the doors made when closing was Mercedes E/S Class worthy. I opened and closed them at least 10 times!

Of course this is not my type of vehicle but it should do well for its target audience. I give Toyota props for making this car more appealing both aesthetically and dynamically without alienating its customer base.

~Patrick

BachelorFrog
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 14:09
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CivicB18 wrote:
My dad brings home a new Avalon last night and calls me to come over to see what I think of it.

Exterior: more interesting looking as well as more upscale.

Interior: I actually like the interior as its just different. Materials, fit and finish are top notch but the rear seat seemed smaller vs the last generation.

Drivetrain: strong, smooth drivetrain with snappy acceleration.

Dynamics: its still an Avalon but its much more composed vs previous generations.

Build quality: EXCELLENT! The thwump the doors made when closing was Mercedes E/S Class worthy. I opened and closed them at least 10 times!

Of course this is not my type of vehicle but it should do well for its target audience. I give Toyota props for making this car more appealing both aesthetically and dynamically without alienating its customer base.

~Patrick


Did he cross-shopped with NSX? ;)

superchg2
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 14:24
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The cat fish grill leaves a little to be desired. It seems to have the identical drive train from the previous Avalon.



according2kev
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 14:45
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CivicB18 wrote:
My dad brings home a new Avalon last night and calls me to come over to see what I think of it.

Exterior: more interesting looking as well as more upscale.

Interior: I actually like the interior as its just different. Materials, fit and finish are top notch but the rear seat seemed smaller vs the last generation.

Drivetrain: strong, smooth drivetrain with snappy acceleration.

Dynamics: its still an Avalon but its much more composed vs previous generations.

Build quality: EXCELLENT! The thwump the doors made when closing was Mercedes E/S Class worthy. I opened and closed them at least 10 times!

Of course this is not my type of vehicle but it should do well for its target audience. I give Toyota props for making this car more appealing both aesthetically and dynamically without alienating its customer base.

~Patrick



Yep, and with the addition of a hybrid model this car should do well for Toyota. I've seen a few in person and agree it looks better than the outgoing model, grille aside. Also, Toyota isn't holding back on marketing this new model. I see the commericial where the Avalon forms from tinted liquid 50 times a day! Coincidently, it came on as I started my message lol.

Off topic, I noticed Toyota has changed their slogan to "Lets go places." I wonder if this had anything to do with the "moving forward... even when you don't want to" jokes that came after the unintended acceleration debacle.

superchg2
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 15:05
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]The cat fish grill leaves a little to be desired (and I wasn't talking about a restaurant). It seems to have the identical drive train from the previous Avalon.




Power Of Dreams
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 17:28
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I've been considering whether to get an Avalon or an NSX. Tough decision.
CivicB18
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 18:12
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BachelorFrog wrote:
CivicB18 wrote:
My dad brings home a new Avalon last night and calls me to come over to see what I think of it.

Exterior: more interesting looking as well as more upscale.

Interior: I actually like the interior as its just different. Materials, fit and finish are top notch but the rear seat seemed smaller vs the last generation.

Drivetrain: strong, smooth drivetrain with snappy acceleration.

Dynamics: its still an Avalon but its much more composed vs previous generations.

Build quality: EXCELLENT! The thwump the doors made when closing was Mercedes E/S Class worthy. I opened and closed them at least 10 times!

Of course this is not my type of vehicle but it should do well for its target audience. I give Toyota props for making this car more appealing both aesthetically and dynamically without alienating its customer base.

~Patrick


Did he cross-shopped with NSX? ;)




I was in the NSX thread and started a new thread not thinking it was the NSX thread. Mods, please move my thread. My apologies.


~Patrick

xBeastx
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 19:08
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Power Of Dreams wrote:
I've been considering whether to get an Avalon or an NSX. Tough decision.

Hahahahahaha

DOHCtor
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-27-2013 21:20
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according2kev wrote:
Off topic, I noticed Toyota has changed their slogan to "Lets go places." I wonder if this had anything to do with the "moving forward... even when you don't want to" jokes that came after the unintended acceleration debacle.
Let's go places ... even when you don't want to

Honda1
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-28-2013 06:54
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40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.

DCR
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-28-2013 09:53
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40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.



That is probably because it is.

Stating facts is hardly complaining.

Mechanic
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-28-2013 14:49
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Honda1 wrote:
40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.


I take it you haven't priced a V-6 Camry XLE in some time? $40K for Toyota's top-of-the-line is ballpark. And they throw in a fish mouth.

On the other hand, $34k for a re-worked 4-cyl. Civic is dumb.

CivicB18
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-28-2013 19:18
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Honda1 wrote:
40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.



$40k isn't that bad especially when there are midsize family sedans topping out at $37k (Kia Optima/Ford Fusion).

~Patrick

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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-28-2013 20:36
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40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.



Keep in mind that said $40k Avalon will have similar legroom/headroom as the RLX (more rear legroom IIRC) and similar acceleration.

Certainly there are some features to be had on the RLX, but the Avalon, and its $50k sibling the ES350, undercut the RLX very effectively IMO.

SC

xBeastx
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-28-2013 22:27
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CivicB18 wrote:
Honda1 wrote:
40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.



$40k isn't that bad especially when there are midsize family sedans topping out at $37k (Kia Optima/Ford Fusion).

~Patrick


That makes the Accord seem like an amazing value considering the Ford Fusion Titanium doesn't even have freaking HID headlights! Whereas the Accord for $34,000 has LED headlights.

jshaw
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 00:04
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xBeastx wrote:
CivicB18 wrote:
Honda1 wrote:
40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.



$40k isn't that bad especially when there are midsize family sedans topping out at $37k (Kia Optima/Ford Fusion).

~Patrick


That makes the Accord seem like an amazing value considering the Ford Fusion Titanium doesn't even have freaking HID headlights! Whereas the Accord for $34,000 has LED headlights.


The Fusion has a much nicer parking sensor/camera integrated system (BMW level), AWD optional, and going by web reviews (I'm not in the market for a new sedan, so I'm not going to waste some dealer's time), better handling than the 9G Accord. I still think it's a worse car overall, but if you want to nitpick, there are plenty of things each car doesn't have. At this pricepoint, you just cannot have it all... yet. Well, at least by early 2013 standards of, "all." Later this year, who knows? Maybe the market will love antenna wires, and praise the Fusion for it, ding the Accord for having a shark fin.

jshaw
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 00:08
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That being said, the Avalon has just about everything I could think of wanting in a car, at 42k USD. Bar one thing: a 40ft turning diameter. The Camry, for reference, has a 36.7 ft diameter, or so. It didn't really matter a lot to me, until I got the land barge that is my X5. 42ft and heavy steering. Compared to my previous car, at 37ft, with light steering? I don't like any of it's city maneuvering. That being said, on the highway, the BMW does the normal trick of feeling much smaller and lighter than it really is.
iNteGRaz92
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 03:13
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Honda1 wrote:
40K for a loaded Avalon... this is a lot of money.

... and people complain that the RLX is overpriced.


they live in a dream world where the rlx fully loaded with the hybrid awd system should cost 40k. if it costs more than that then it's overpriced, even though its competitors start at around the same price. weird.

EXV6
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 14:22
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I hope your dad is enjoying his luxurious new Avalon. Personally, I really dislike the trendy, Audi-like gaping-grill front end styling that so many carmakers are going for. The fugly new Accord Hybrid even mimics Audi.
JeffX
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 14:33
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EXV6 wrote:
I hope your dad is enjoying his luxurious new Avalon. Personally, I really dislike the trendy, Audi-like gaping-grill front end styling that so many carmakers are going for. The fugly new Accord Hybrid even mimics Audi.


I believe his father is a product planner for Toyota.

CivicB18
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 14:50
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Jeff wrote:
EXV6 wrote:
I hope your dad is enjoying his luxurious new Avalon. Personally, I really dislike the trendy, Audi-like gaping-grill front end styling that so many carmakers are going for. The fugly new Accord Hybrid even mimics Audi.


I believe his father is a product planner for Toyota.




Correct.

~Patrick

SAR305
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 15:20
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The interior on these is super slick.
Dren
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Re: Toyota Avalon    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-29-2013 15:24
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My uncle had an Avalon a few years ago. I loved the rear seats. That car seemed almost like a Lexus for a bit less. The new ones aren't that bad looking.


 
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