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NealX
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No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 16:20
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CivicB18
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 17:13
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I like the exaggerated front end as it's very 7 Series. What I don't like is the front end of the original as it just looks dated and lacks the detailing of a true flagship. The original designs front (side profile) is too visually heavy. If Acura could visually lean up the front end (a- pillar forward), add some tasteful visual detailing (headlights, grill, front bumper) and it could be a very good and tasteful design.


~Patrick

ClementZ
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 17:28
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Neal wrote:



Holy crap. That front end is huge.
Is this what you imagine it would look like if it was RWD?

NealX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 17:58
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NealX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 18:13
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Yes, full-on RWD. It must first be handsome, correctly proportioned and unmistakably RWD. No platform sharing BS. A compact V8?

As for proportions, I looked to BMW's 6 Series Gran Coupe, created parameters defined by its dimensional milestones and hard points, then got to work. It's a large car styled to look lean and athletic in Black Currant Pearl.

NealX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 18:54
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Oh, no change in scale in the comparison above. Tire height and belt-line are unchanged and one can see much much longer my car is compared to the original.

We'll have the usual, full suite of wallpapers up this coming Monday, but I was itching to get this single image up to share.

The RLX has been severely overshadowed by new Accord buzz, though my redo reminds me of how much the original is like a jaundiced beluga whale...

sadlerau
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 19:13
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Neal wrote:

The RLX has been severely overshadowed by new Accord buzz, though my redo reminds me of how much the original is like a jaundiced beluga whale...



Your on a roll Neal, because I don't like the purple effort at all. :(

Almost prefer the original, as I think you have extended the wheelbase a little too far - to my eye it looks like the car is about to break it's back and collapse in the middle?

NealX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 19:28
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ClementZ
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 19:48
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Neal wrote:



I think you could've used a better car as a model.
Jag XJ perhaps?

sadlerau
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 20:01
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Neal wrote:




And this photo makes me realize what it is about the lengthened RLX that grates! The dropping crease line off the front fender doesn't look too bad on the original, but on your image it conjures up fracture points and fatigue lines in the metal?? :)

TurkMan71
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 20:23
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Neal,

Out of all the RLX chops you've done so far, this is my favorite.
The wheels are a nice touch and I like how you tweaked the greenhouse back too...

I think I would maybe shorten the front wheel to door edge by an inch...maybe. And also change up or soften the arch over the front wheel, but this looks NICE.

Acura will never build anything like this ever unfortunately :-(

NealX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-23-2012 21:55
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^Hey, thanks. Looking back at the others, I now seem to find them pretty awful - trying to make a large FWD sedan look well-proportioned. Ugh.

This purple color is meant to separate the boys from the men ;-) and recall that classic Accord Coupe color.

TLinTX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-24-2012 00:17
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Looks awesome Neal. I'd buy it if it were real (and cry when I curb checked those wheels on day two).

Thanks for your contributions to the site.

MalcolmR
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-24-2012 01:30
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Ditto. Thank you Neal.

Your contribution is much appreciated.

Malcolm

:)

mobis21
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-24-2012 23:21
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So you've given it the clown shoe look of a bwm. No thanks.
NealX
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-24-2012 23:43
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^It wasn't for you.
owequitit
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 01:06
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mobis21 wrote:
So you've given it the clown shoe look of a bwm. No thanks.


As opposed to the "my nose has so much overhang I am going to scrape on the driveway, because I am trying REALLY hard to pretend I am not an Accord!" look of the actual car?

mobis21
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 01:16
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mobis21 wrote:
So you've given it the clown shoe look of a bwm. No thanks.


As opposed to the "my nose has so much overhang I am going to scrape on the driveway, because I am trying REALLY hard to pretend I am not an Accord!" look of the actual car?



I bet you really hate Ferraris. Their overhang is triple what this car is.

owequitit
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 02:18
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mobis21 wrote:
owequitit wrote:
mobis21 wrote:
So you've given it the clown shoe look of a bwm. No thanks.


As opposed to the "my nose has so much overhang I am going to scrape on the driveway, because I am trying REALLY hard to pretend I am not an Accord!" look of the actual car?



I bet you really hate Ferraris. Their overhang is triple what this car is.



Nope. I love Ferraris because the overhang actually serves a useful purpose. And they actually move FORWARD with technology, and they manage to always out do themselves, and they maintain their brand heritage, and they don't shy away from a challenge or cheapen their product in the interest of broadening sales. Oh yeah, and if you look at all of the Ferraris except the mid-engined ones, they don't have that much overhang. Ferrari manages to fit a V12 in a 599 or F12 and not have unsightly overhang.

However, it is a nice diversionary tactic from the reality that Neal's concept looks better than the actual car. Point blank truth. It looks more upscale, and it would be received as such in the market which is clearly evidenced by the cars that actually lead sales in the market. But never mind any of that, you just keep hunting witches with your car religion shenanigans.

ciwai08
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 04:32
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I think it looks awesome and if the RLX had really turned out that way, it would've seriously changed the perception of the brand..........but, I think the "4 door coupe" paradigm is really not what Honda should be, since it goes against the man maximum, machine minimum thing--the best hondas and acuras have always exemplified that worn out old adage.

Not that they shouldn't do something a little bonkers--- I always thought a cool design proposal would be a mid engined 4 door flagship on a stretched NSX platform.



ciwai08
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 04:59
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.....which essentially was the configuration of the Dual note.


....but maybe with some of the proportions/attitude of the kiwami.


Its really too bad the Clarity didn't turn out as an evolution of that concept....it would've showcased the functional advantages of fuel cell technology in a really striking way.









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superchg2
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 09:37
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She is quite amusing.
owequitit
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 17:26
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mobis21 wrote:
I get so amuzed reading owequitit's rants. Especially when she is ranting about how other people;s OPINIONS are wrong, and going on as if her OPINIONS are correct. Or even that her OPINIONS are facts now.

One of the reasons I visit TOV.



While my OPINION may be that the other car looks better, sales pretty clearly indicate that RWD proportions sell better. That is a FACT.

What gets me about your rants is that you can't contribute ANYTHING substantial, and you can't acknowledge the difference between a fact and your B.S.

iNteGRaz92
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 17:54
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owequitit wrote:

Nope. I love Ferraris because the overhang actually serves a useful purpose.


so what useful purpose does a massive front overhang serve on a 200k+ ferrari vs a 50k acura? i really want to know.

ClementZ
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 18:15
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iNteGRaz92 wrote:
owequitit wrote:

Nope. I love Ferraris because the overhang actually serves a useful purpose.


so what useful purpose does a massive front overhang serve on a 200k+ ferrari vs a 50k acura? i really want to know.



Downforce, so I'm told.

OT: Am I the only one that thinks that the overhang on the RLX isn't that bad? The RWD proportions proposed by Neal is certainly an alternative, but I don't exactly prefer it to the front heaviness that this Acura currently has
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Power Of Dreams
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 18:47
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mobis21 wrote:
I get so amuzed reading owequitit's rants. Especially when she is ranting about how other people;s OPINIONS are wrong, and going on as if her OPINIONS are correct. Or even that her OPINIONS are facts now.

One of the reasons I visit TOV.



owe is female?

owequitit
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 19:26
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iNteGRaz92 wrote:
owequitit wrote:

Nope. I love Ferraris because the overhang actually serves a useful purpose.


so what useful purpose does a massive front overhang serve on a 200k+ ferrari vs a 50k acura? i really want to know.



For starters, in a MR configuration it has the benefit of allowing a more sloping nose that clears the front tire, which is usually a large% of the cars height. That in turn has aero benefits.

It also has additional aero benefits because the airflow being seperated by the nose travels further back prior to hitting the tire/suspension area, which is a traditionally dirty drag area. The more settled you can get the flow prior to reaching a turbulent region, the better off you are.

With most front engined cars, it isn't as much of an issue because the powertrains are taller, and dictate the height of the nose, which partially offsets the benefits of the longer overhang.

But make no mistake about it, the overhang on the RL is dictated by slinging an engine in front of the axle centerline, and still having to make crash standards, as it is with pretty much all FWD, transverse layouts.

according2kev
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 19:27
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ClementZ wrote:
iNteGRaz92 wrote:
owequitit wrote:

Nope. I love Ferraris because the overhang actually serves a useful purpose.


so what useful purpose does a massive front overhang serve on a 200k+ ferrari vs a 50k acura? i really want to know.



OT: Am I the only one that thinks that the overhang on the RLX isn't that bad?/



Nope. I thought the car looked very nice in the video and the overhang just wasn't the huge eyesore to me as it was to some of the others. I will say that it would look more premium with extra space between the wheel well and door though.

Compared to the purple car, I like the original better or the red version Neal did a while back, though the revised front end did remind me of the Pontiac G8 a little.

owequitit
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Re: No comment.    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-25-2012 19:29
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Power Of Dreams wrote:
mobis21 wrote:
I get so amuzed reading owequitit's rants. Especially when she is ranting about how other people;s OPINIONS are wrong, and going on as if her OPINIONS are correct. Or even that her OPINIONS are facts now.

One of the reasons I visit TOV.



owe is female?



Nope. I am very much a male, and have the equipment to prove it. The problem is that Mobis is as irrelevant as tits on a boar, so he has to try and make himself seem relevant by personally attacking and insulting anything that challenges his blind bias towards Honda's teet because he can't effectively provide anything to the contrary.

He is, in essence, a 13 year old with a keyboard.


 
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