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NOTE From the editors of the TOV: You are reading a user-submitted article. This article is very thorough and is being presented in its entirety in unedited form. The opinions expressed in this article do not necessarily reflect those of the TOV nor its editorial staff. We would like to extend our thanks to Dan Acosta for taking the time to write this informative article and sharing it with the TOV community.

Camry vs. Accord vs. Corolla vs. Civic vs. Fit: On two of the occasions when my dealer had my Civic for multiple days trying to fix the wind noise, they put me in a loaner car (Corolla and Camry), which gave me the opportunity to make some interesting comparisons.

The Corolla felt like an economy car and made the Civic seem like a BMW or some other sports sedan in comparison. My time in the Corolla increased my resolve to fix the Civic rather than just walk away.

I was immediately impressed with how good the 06 Camry is and now understand why it is a top seller. It was enlightening to see how two companies (Honda and Toyota) strived to make the same product and ended up with two very similar yet different products (Accord and Camry).

The one big thing that would make me choose Accord over Camry is a drive in the mountains. Whereas the Camry hunts for gears uphill and requires driver input to control speed downhill, the Accord's automatic transmission has the uncanny ability to always pick the right gear and, in concert with the cruise control, makes the hills seemingly dissolve so the driver can enjoy the road.

The average driver, however, may not appreciate the advantages in handling, road feel, engine, and transmission performance of the Accord over the Camry. Toyota has been very smart adding content to the 07 Camry to distinguish it from Accord. If you want a 4-cyl sedan with VSC, TPMS, 8-way cloth power driver's seat, yada yada, Toyota has an answer that Honda can't match. The 07 Camry also has more real-world front seat legroom than Accord, though the total combined front and rear legroom is still comparable. This would be an easy fix for Honda: just give more travel in the front seat track. A big oversight with the 07 Camry, though, is the front door armrests don't extend back far enough to be usable by a 6-1 driver; the B-pillar interferes, similar to the current Accord. The great seat travel for your legs in the 07 Camry is useless if there is not enough room for your arm to be comfortable. The inadequate room combined with the overall driving experience is why I would choose Civic or Accord over the Camry.

Civic vs. Accord is the really tough choice. The Accord certainly feels like a more substantial car than the Civic, and has a level of refinement that is hard to quantify. It's hard to argue with a two-year-old car with 44,000 miles that still looks and runs like new.

The 06 Civic gives up a little of the Accord's ambience in exchange for a slightly tighter feel on the road. The automatic in the Civic holds a lower gear a bit longer than the Accord and gives more compression braking, almost like a stick. The Civic also has some features (SVC, one-touch sunroof, etc.) that haven't made it into the Accord yet.

While either would be a great choice, I would pick the 06 Civic over the current Accord because the B-pillar in the Accord interferes with using the door armrest, similar to the problem in the 07 Camry. If you are shorter and don't position the seat all the way back, this may not be a problem for you. Aside from seat comfort, I find the styling and overall 36 MPG of the Civic very appealing. It's a great car to satisfy a mid-life crisis while still being affordable.

I was expecting the Fit to be more economical than the Civic, but it seems like it will actually be about the same (33/38 Fit vs. 30/40 Civic). The real appeal of the Fit might be the flexibility of its interior seating arrangement. Style-wise, the Civic still wins hands down for me.

Conclusion: The 06 Civic is one of the best cars Honda has ever made, and this is coming from someone who had to struggle through an annoying first-year production glitch. The Civic is affordable, stylish, practical, and drives more like a sports sedan than an economy car.

If I could only have one Honda, it would still be the Odyssey for its overall flexibility and value. Where else can you find a vehicle that will transport eight people, drives like an Accord, and still delivers mileage in the mid-twenties? If you're lucky enough to have more than one Honda, I wholeheartedly recommend the Civic. More than any other vehicle I have ever owned, the Civic forces me to make excuses to go for a drive and take the long way home while I'm at it. Pulling in 36 MPG over 17,000 miles of mixed driving just makes the smile on my face even bigger.



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10-08-2006 10:49
The "official" Honda fix for the wind noise   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
10-08-2006 08:04
hedonic adaptation   (Score: 1, Normal)
homerj_ak
10-07-2006 20:36
Thank you!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
homerj_ak
09-21-2006 17:43
City mpg   (Score: 1, Normal)
aznxthuggie
04-11-2006 13:42
nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
iNteGRaz92
04-11-2006 14:14
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
sooperman12
04-11-2006 14:31
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
Gollum
04-11-2006 15:25
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
cfox84
09-01-2006 12:22
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
Tigerriot
04-11-2006 15:25
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
zapata
04-11-2006 16:38
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
hondacurafan
04-11-2006 17:06
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
01V6
04-11-2006 18:20
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
shingles
04-11-2006 21:53
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
Specboy-GSR
04-11-2006 23:03
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
01V6
04-12-2006 01:23
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
ginsu
04-15-2006 16:37
Re: nice review, but   (Score: 1, Normal)
Antigen
05-09-2006 09:30
Gas Tank Capacity   (Score: 1, Normal)
whobodym
05-09-2006 12:14
Re: Gas Tank Capacity   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
05-01-2006 02:42
WOW, outstanding write-up!   (Score: 1, Normal)
JJ_Dude
05-02-2006 12:18
Re: WOW, outstanding write-up!   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-13-2006 12:03
How many sedan owners have the wind noise issue?   (Score: 1, Normal)
RSX Idiot
04-14-2006 22:08
Re: How many sedan owners have the wind noise issue?   (Score: 1, Normal)
SoupedUpMonkey
04-27-2006 09:36
Re: How many sedan owners have the wind noise issue?   (Score: 1, Normal)
fesersoft
05-01-2006 02:35
Re: How many sedan owners have the wind noise issue?   (Score: 1, Normal)
JJ_Dude
04-13-2006 11:23
06 Civic / 05 Accord   (Score: 1, Normal)
psyshack
04-12-2006 20:17
thank you thank you thank you   (Score: 1, Normal)
cgtantra
04-11-2006 09:05
36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
Sledge
04-11-2006 10:21
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
DaveM
04-11-2006 10:27
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
Sledge
04-11-2006 12:07
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
6SPDTL
04-11-2006 12:23
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
Sledge
04-11-2006 14:05
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
6SPDTL
04-11-2006 14:33
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
Sledge
04-11-2006 18:34
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
siegen
04-11-2006 14:09
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
shingles
04-11-2006 15:27
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
zapata
04-11-2006 16:22
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
MiYoshi
04-11-2006 23:07
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
zapata
04-12-2006 08:02
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
Sledge
04-12-2006 17:20
Re: 36 MPG for the hybrid? Pathetic   (Score: 1, Normal)
RSX Idiot
04-12-2006 08:45
Excellent review!   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenJohnson
04-12-2006 11:10
Re: Excellent review!   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-12-2006 12:02
Re: Excellent review!   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenJohnson
04-12-2006 13:11
Re: Excellent review!   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-12-2006 00:17
Coupe Noises   (Score: 1, Normal)
danswick
04-12-2006 11:49
Re: Coupe Noises   (Score: 1, Normal)
typer03
04-12-2006 12:04
Re: Coupe Noises   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenJohnson
04-11-2006 23:06
si sedan   (Score: 1, Normal)
cat in the baby
04-12-2006 11:19
Re: si sedan   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-11-2006 16:08
horn   (Score: 1, Normal)
smarijono
04-11-2006 16:53
Re: horn   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-12-2006 10:27
Re: horn   (Score: 1, Normal)
smarijono
04-12-2006 10:52
Re: horn   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-11-2006 19:25
How do you get to take a 160 mile test drive???   (Score: 1, Normal)
RobL
04-11-2006 19:57
Re: How do you get to take a 160 mile test drive???   (Score: 1, Normal)
yrean
04-11-2006 20:28
Re: How do you get to take a 160 mile test drive???   (Score: 1, Normal)
DanielAcosta
04-11-2006 22:10
Re: How do you get to take a 160 mile test drive???   (Score: 1, Normal)
superchg
04-11-2006 20:22
Great Review Daniel   (Score: 1, Normal)
Heckler
04-11-2006 08:13
thanks!   (Score: 1, Normal)
pezones
04-11-2006 09:15
Re: thanks!   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
04-11-2006 09:59
Re: thanks!   (Score: 1, Normal)
Obsessed
04-11-2006 11:20
Re: thanks!   (Score: 1, Normal)
Honda-D
04-11-2006 20:02
Re: thanks!   (Score: 1, Normal)
yrean
04-11-2006 10:38
Re: thanks!   (Score: 1, Normal)
zapata
04-11-2006 16:41
Excellent review   (Score: 1, Normal)
hondacurafan
04-11-2006 11:35
Man, and I thought I was analytical!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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