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Summary/Conclusions

In general, the Si feels pretty well balanced and quite stable. I was hoping it would rotate as well as the Integra Type Rs and Civic Type Rs that I've driven, but the only way you're likely to pivot the rear around in this Si seems to be with trailbraking. If you overcook a turn, lifting the throttle will tighten the arc of the front wheels but the rear stays put. If you're like me and prefer to be able to rotate the car with the throttle, a stiffer rear bar will probably do the trick. The standard setup is appropriate for the intended audience of the Si, but if the stock configuration isn't hard-core enough for you, the body has actually been engineered to deal with aftermarket upgrades. In particular, the rear upper arm bracket, rear bulkhead, and rear stabilizer mount brackets have all been reinforced.

This car will undoubtedly put up some pretty impressive objective numbers, but how does it feel to drive? Here's how I would subjectively rate the major components on a scale of 1 to 10:

  • Engine: 10 - What can I say? The sound, the fury. It's the most enjoyable engine you can get from Honda short of an NSX.
  • Throttle Response: 8.0 - It's the 21st century. Drive by wire lag should be imperceptible.
  • Transmission: 9.0 - To make this a 10, it just needs a bit more positive feedback, like the TSX.
  • Steering: 8.5 - This rating is a little shaky at the moment. I need more time with the car to really sort out if it deserves more or less than 8.5.
  • Suspension: 8.5 - For track use, you'll definitely want something stiffer. Nose dive under heavy braking could be improved. We haven't had a chance to drive the car on any mountain roads yet, so I'll revisit this rating once that happens.
  • Brakes: 9.0 - The brakes felt pretty solid on the track. If you need more stopping power, a simple pad upgrade will probably be sufficient.
  • Balance/Feel: 8.8 - the benchmark for current Honda front wheel drive cars remains the TSX, even though the Si would undoubtedly run away from a TSX on a road course, the TSX holds the edge in terms of feel. It's not just one thing that I can point to, necessarily, but the overall package.
  • Fun for the Dollar/Value: 11 - This car gives you more than the RSX Type S for thousands less. This car will also be poaching the Accord 6-speed. It may not be as quick, but it will outhandle it and it sounds even better than the Accord 6MT when you rip it through the gears.
  • Interior: 8.5 - There are a number of upscale touches and absolutely fantastic seats, but I could live without the two tiered dash design and the patchwork of plastic pieces to cover all of that acreage.
  • Exterior: 9.0 - This is a huge improvement over the previous Si, but the extreme cab-forward design creates problems inside the car in terms of heat transmission, headroom, and dashboard acreage.

Summary

The 20th anniversary Civic Si is poised to storm back onto the radar screen of sport compact shoppers. This car should be in very high demand for some time. While Honda has indicated that they were aiming to get back to the roots of the Civic Si, this car doesn't quite hit that mark. Yes it has an amazing performance envelope and superb value, but it weighs nearly 2900 lbs and rivals some entry luxury cars with its sophistication and equipment. That's not a knock against the new Si at all, but it has clearly grown up over the past few decades and keep that in consideration if you're looking for something to replace your B18C5-powered EG hatch. Whether you're talking about styling, engine note, or all-out performance, this is the raciest Si to date. While the car isn't perfect, it's not far off the mark and it should be easy to tweak it to suit most tastes. The great thing about the Si is that the major components are proven, and a good portion of the aftermarket is already developed for the car. Plus, Honda just killed the market for imported JDM LSDs.

Video

We actually lugged our full video gear to Chicago only to have our Canon XL2 die on us before we ever reached the track. Unfortunately the only other video camera we had on hand was a midrange Sony minidv camcorder, so the quality of video that we were able to shoot was mediocre at best, and the sound from the camera isn't so great either. Below is a short video clip where you can get a small sample of what the Si sounds like. Believe me, the audio doesn't do the car justice!

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    TOV Project Si!

    We've just taken delivery of our own 2006 Honda Civic Si. Over the next few months, we will be preparing the car to be shown at the 2005 SEMA Show in Las Vegas. Along the way we'll provide updates with respect to the progress of the car, as well as providing glimpses of it as we test it out at the track. The first update should be coming before the end of the month.


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09-13-2005 23:10 Si vs. TSX Impressions?   (Score: 1, Normal) 99SI
09-14-2005 01:38 EggSalad
09-14-2005 02:58 Rydin24inchdubz
09-14-2005 07:30 99SI
09-14-2005 13:41 SuprChrged '00Si
09-14-2005 13:49 SuprChrged '00Si
09-15-2005 10:11 JeffX
09-16-2005 11:43 sierra248
09-16-2005 16:02 EggSalad
09-16-2005 18:14 afty
09-16-2005 22:05 JeffX
09-17-2005 19:07 Jordan5cyl
09-23-2005 20:13 reddogg
11-05-2005 06:32 KyleD
09-26-2005 23:16 MarkCoburn
09-30-2005 18:47 Lue
10-04-2005 10:52 JeffX
02-24-2008 03:48 Stephanoya
09-17-2005 01:07 ImportDealer
09-17-2005 18:31 DaBlackT
09-22-2005 20:45 Si seat height vs EX (please be lower!)   (Score: 1, Normal) Bustanovich
12-19-2005 12:19 Bustanovich
01-07-2006 01:51 JeffX
01-07-2006 03:11 LudegarH22A7
02-10-2006 20:24 Bustanovich
04-03-2006 18:34 NDS
11-03-2005 23:35 TSX DBW   (Score: 1, Normal) CRXR
11-06-2005 15:44 CRXR
11-09-2005 02:28 CRXR
11-13-2005 13:03 CRXR
11-18-2005 12:25 CRXR
11-21-2005 17:01 CRXR
11-28-2005 04:08 CRXR
11-29-2005 21:46 JeffX
09-02-2005 16:58 Sound and Fury   (Score: 1, Normal) Captain Morgan
09-03-2005 00:51 sierra248
09-03-2005 18:01 HondaSalesGuy
09-03-2005 20:28 AznSupastar
09-04-2005 01:09 JeffX
09-04-2005 01:49 AznSupastar
09-04-2005 01:50 AznSupastar
11-03-2005 23:50 CRXR
09-07-2005 20:10 Bottom-Hinged Accelerator Pedal?   (Score: 1, Normal) Lue
09-08-2005 01:07 LudegarH22A7
09-08-2005 15:17 JeffX
10-12-2005 01:36 Djaric
09-19-2005 23:57 On the price   (Score: 1, Normal) AngusOg
09-20-2005 19:43 JByrnes
09-20-2005 23:47 toyforgrls
10-12-2005 01:30 Djaric
09-06-2005 21:04 Jeff....06 TSX or 06 Si....Where are you putting your $$$?   (Score: 1, Normal) blue99si
09-06-2005 23:07 JeffX
09-07-2005 14:50 Nakamichi
09-07-2005 15:16 Pauly1
09-25-2005 03:02 uhhhh
09-27-2005 13:26 MarkCoburn
10-04-2005 11:00 JeffX
09-30-2005 11:05 Black Civic EX with HFP Body Kit   (Score: 1, Normal) SuprChrged '00Si
10-04-2005 10:54 JeffX
09-02-2005 17:33 Wow, what a car.....sounds like HFP package will fix any kinks though!   (Score: 1, Normal) Acura Type S'in
09-02-2005 19:46 jaymcp
09-02-2005 20:03 Acura Type S'in
09-02-2005 21:22 jaymcp
09-03-2005 13:49 AznSupastar
09-03-2005 16:43 Acura Type S'in
09-04-2005 14:29 Twilight Prince
09-06-2005 12:18 mininsx
09-27-2005 22:18 emarin
09-28-2005 21:29 nindoo
09-25-2005 19:19 Insurance   (Score: 1, Normal) bcdog960
09-05-2005 12:25 best engine short of NSX   (Score: 1, Normal) watermelonman
09-05-2005 14:59 notyper
09-05-2005 17:26 JeffX
09-19-2005 11:15 watermelonman
09-20-2005 16:04 semaj5
09-19-2005 10:05 Spoiler   (Score: 1, Normal) bcdog960
09-19-2005 18:08 RyanDL
09-07-2005 14:25 JEFF.... Question on Exhaust Noise   (Score: 1, Normal) Twilight Prince
09-14-2005 23:10 TonzX22
09-15-2005 00:02 JeffX
09-15-2005 11:03 Rydin24inchdubz
09-15-2005 16:10 notyper
09-19-2005 05:24 Kn1ves
09-19-2005 08:49 JeffX
09-19-2005 16:46 TonzX22
09-04-2005 11:08 0-60, 0 -100, 1/4 mile times?   (Score: 1, Normal) outatimemk
09-04-2005 15:42 JeffX
09-05-2005 18:35 Bustanovich
09-19-2005 16:00 TonyEX
09-15-2005 20:09 BLAP
09-15-2005 22:43 99SI
09-16-2005 06:08 BLAP
09-18-2005 20:20 Da Man
09-19-2005 11:28 KaP TypeSH
09-07-2005 16:11 Canadian model - Si or SiR?   (Score: 1, Normal) tbarnes31
09-10-2005 11:53 Bruvyman
09-19-2005 14:20 tamazoid
09-14-2005 17:46 All accessories   (Score: 1, Normal) Rydin24inchdubz
09-14-2005 17:57 Rydin24inchdubz
09-15-2005 11:32 SuprChrged '00Si
09-15-2005 13:31 Rydin24inchdubz
09-15-2005 20:02 Creamyaminater
09-16-2005 00:51 Rydin24inchdubz
09-19-2005 00:08 Rydin24inchdubz
09-19-2005 04:34 KWu
09-18-2005 02:27 Gear Ratio?   (Score: 1, Normal) harky007
09-18-2005 13:26 fleadhfan
09-02-2005 17:42 Is the car more fun than an S2000?   (Score: 1, Normal) LudegarH22A7
09-02-2005 21:19 shingles
09-02-2005 22:58 gilbert
09-03-2005 01:27 LudegarH22A7
09-03-2005 11:20 JeffX
09-05-2005 00:54 TonyEX
09-05-2005 02:37 notyper
09-05-2005 22:30 Pauly1
09-06-2005 06:49 montechester
09-07-2005 14:16 notyper
09-05-2005 10:15 shingles
09-05-2005 10:28 RedRex
09-05-2005 15:00 TonyEX
09-08-2005 14:42 shingles
09-17-2005 16:01 hairPin
09-05-2005 13:53 LudegarH22A7
09-07-2005 03:47 Hondaboy04
09-07-2005 20:31 Lue
09-07-2005 20:59 steadfast
09-07-2005 21:12 Lue
09-08-2005 14:23 TonyEX
09-08-2005 14:36 JeffX
09-08-2005 14:48 shingles
09-08-2005 21:04 LudegarH22A7
09-12-2005 04:02 s2000black
09-13-2005 10:15 Pseudomaniac
09-13-2005 22:24 notyper
09-15-2005 09:40 Pseudomaniac
09-13-2005 22:33 LudegarH22A7
09-17-2005 05:21 s2000black
09-06-2005 12:48 6SPDTL
09-06-2005 14:36 TonyEX
09-06-2005 17:01 6SPDTL
09-07-2005 23:46 LudegarH22A7
09-12-2005 04:12 EPS was on S2000 and Insight- Model year 2000   (Score: 1, Normal) s2000black
09-12-2005 12:43 JeffX
09-14-2005 10:28 Wizard
09-17-2005 05:35 s2000black
09-16-2005 11:34 Civic on Honda.com   (Score: 1, Normal) newdecon
09-14-2005 14:07 MSRP for 2006 Si   (Score: 1, Normal) SuprChrged '00Si
09-14-2005 15:03 99SI
09-14-2005 15:13 jaymcp
09-14-2005 15:52 SuprChrged '00Si
09-14-2005 16:07 rsmith
09-14-2005 16:16 99SI
09-10-2005 20:43 wheel size   (Score: 1, Normal) the rookie
09-14-2005 14:09 SuprChrged '00Si
09-12-2005 21:29 Tires...   (Score: 1, Normal) George Madison
09-06-2005 15:59 Someone have the Si already, HOW COME??   (Score: 1, Normal) rsxtypesivtec
09-06-2005 16:20 JeffX
09-10-2005 07:31 giltibo
09-11-2005 19:07 StarBai
09-11-2005 15:25 Spinal Tap's Si   (Score: 1, Normal) TonyEX
09-02-2005 17:00 I cant believe...   (Score: 1, Normal) CivicB18
09-03-2005 04:25 7th_Shadow
09-03-2005 09:07 jaymcp
09-11-2005 02:15 Jader88EX
09-02-2005 23:31 2900 pounds   (Score: 1, Normal) kiwikungfu
09-03-2005 08:16 precisionelite
09-03-2005 12:24 Stevens24
09-03-2005 13:29 Spyder5786
09-03-2005 22:21 Stevens24
09-04-2005 03:20 Kn1ves
09-04-2005 11:38 kiwikungfu
09-04-2005 12:12 notyper
09-05-2005 15:35 kiwikungfu
09-05-2005 22:02 SoR
09-09-2005 17:03 shingles
09-08-2005 13:35 Xenolite
09-04-2005 17:06 VTEC_Inside
09-04-2005 22:50 Kn1ves
09-05-2005 19:36 KaP TypeSH
09-06-2005 12:50 civexsi
09-09-2005 02:59 mininsx
09-10-2005 00:20 precisionelite
09-10-2005 18:12 Xenolite
09-09-2005 22:51 motor trend story   (Score: 1, Normal) 2004 si
09-08-2005 21:01 Could we please get pics of your project car?   (Score: 1, Normal) JByrnes
09-03-2005 09:25 Two Tiered Instruments   (Score: 1, Normal) txhothead
09-03-2005 11:36 js22
09-03-2005 12:13 longlivehonda
09-03-2005 12:21 JeffX
09-03-2005 17:01 notyper
09-03-2005 18:04
          • ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
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09-03-2005 22:22 Stevens24
09-03-2005 22:45 notyper
09-04-2005 00:03 sierra248
09-05-2005 02:27 notyper
09-08-2005 20:42 Powered by Honda
09-05-2005 15:12 TonyEX
09-05-2005 15:05 TonyEX
09-06-2005 09:24 Suomi
09-05-2005 21:04 Msterbeau
09-06-2005 09:23 RyanDL
09-07-2005 09:02 Msterbeau
09-04-2005 21:05 spydur
09-07-2005 19:23 iNteGRaz92
09-06-2005 12:12 6SPDTL
09-08-2005 13:35 Canadian Price   (Score: 1, Normal) Jdeazy
09-06-2005 10:35 Moonroof = deal killer. Is it optional?   (Score: 1, Normal) Stretch_6
09-06-2005 12:03 mininsx
09-06-2005 12:13 6SPDTL
09-07-2005 14:31 Twilight Prince
09-07-2005 15:25 Stevens24
09-07-2005 15:28 5thGENrustbucket
09-07-2005 00:14 Quick Si chop   (Score: 1, Normal) TDUBZ
09-07-2005 00:08 Quick Si chop   (Score: 1, Normal) TDUBZ
09-03-2005 03:33 honda dealers, take note   (Score: 1, Normal) 03cpe
09-03-2005 17:54 HondaSalesGuy
09-03-2005 18:13 kiwikungfu
09-03-2005 22:17 Stevens24
09-04-2005 15:48 JeffX
09-06-2005 09:50 TonyEX
09-06-2005 18:31 imsuperman
09-05-2005 21:29 Good attitudes   (Score: 1, Normal) small one
09-05-2005 21:54 steadfast
09-04-2005 18:11 vs DC5R???   (Score: 1, Normal) SirHill
09-05-2005 00:22 JeffX
09-04-2005 02:03 Color - Habanero Red Pearl (new – Si only)   (Score: 1, Normal) AznSupastar
09-04-2005 14:20 Twilight Prince
09-04-2005 22:18 Stevens24
09-03-2005 14:29 amber headlight surrond on si   (Score: 1, Normal) ever12
09-04-2005 19:17 corey415
09-03-2005 22:45 Quick shift light question.   (Score: 1, Normal) VTEC_Inside
09-04-2005 01:07 JeffX
09-04-2005 11:44 VTEC_Inside
09-03-2005 17:09 Turbo-Able?   (Score: 1, Normal) Kn1ves
09-04-2005 10:18 JeffX
09-04-2005 10:57 AznSupastar
09-04-2005 10:46 What are the boys in Torrance up to?   (Score: 1, Normal) Pauly1
09-03-2005 23:07 Interior?   (Score: 1, Normal) 99SI
09-03-2005 22:55 SEMA Car, Where are you guys modifying it at?   (Score: 1, Normal) Mike Freitas
09-03-2005 09:43 Project Car possibilities   (Score: 1, Normal) Bustanovich
09-03-2005 10:10 JeffX
09-03-2005 01:18 30th anniversary ?   (Score: 1, Normal) Burgman
09-03-2005 10:09 JeffX
09-03-2005 07:11 Great car. Great Price!   (Score: 1, Normal) Mechanic
09-02-2005 23:00 jeff, i didnt know you guys were coming to chicago to test it out...   (Score: 1, Normal) HappaSaiyan
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