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 Date: January 26, 2007 14:51
 Submitted by:  JeffX
 Source: February 26 issue of BestCar Magazine (via AkiraNSX)
 Credibility Rating: Not Specified


AkiraNSX is on a roll today, shortly after submitting the pics from the Tokyo Auto Salon, he dropped this little bombshell in my inbox:

Hi Jeff,

The Feb 26th issue of Best Car has an article about "the final
version of S2000" and its successor. I thought it's something
everyone would like to know about, so I bought it, took it home, and
my scanner decides to give up its ghost. Oh well, I'll summarize what
I read though.

The Last S2000
"Loyal readers may remember that about 4 years ago, in 2003, Best Car
reported on the release of the S2000 Type R. Unfortunately it never
materialized. At that time, it was not just wild guesses and
Photoshop'ed art work. There was an actually S2000 Type R proposal
that leaked out from Honda sources describing the S2000 Type R. The
proposal was dropped at the last minute in favor of the 2.2L AP2 to
satisfy the need for more torque in the American market, while Japan
complained of the decision being very 'un-Honda.'"

Apparently Best Car has reason to believe that Honda is revisiting
this Type R proposal for the final model change for the S2000. They
call it the "lightweight package" and it will follow the Type R
proposal's target of 100kg weight reduction, bringing the car from
1250kg to 1150kg, changing the power to weight ratio from 5.16kg/ps
to 4.75kg/ps. This should provide performance at turbo levels but
with the direct feel of natural aspiration.

The S2000 Type R model year 2004 proposal (official document from
Honda) consisted of:
-target of 100kg weight reduction
-balanced engine internals (Type R treatment)
-Type R exclusive interior
-air conditioning becomes a factory option
-SRS air bag becomes a factory option
-sound deadening material deleted
-front tire: 205/55R16 to 205/45R17 (implemented on AP2)
-rear tire: 225/50R16 to 245/40R17 (implemented on AP2)
-Type R exclusive suspension tuning
-Type R exclusive uprated brakes
-Type R exclusive body color(s)
-spare tire deleted
-mechanical LSD
-power soft top deleted
-lightweight carbon hard top
-audio becomes factory option

The S2000 is expected to be discontinued before March 2008, so the
lightweight package should be sold sometime between now and then.

The next S
Honda has been tossing around many ideas on the next S. From 4 door
sports car to FF compact sports. But it seems they have decided to
stay with the FR roadster format, and are preparing a concept car in
time for the discontinuation of the S2000. But instead of targeting
the likes of SLK and Z4, they are going to go with a 2.0L engine and
battle it out with the long-time popular Mazda Roadster (Miata in
US). Engine will be the new Advanced VTEC K20A with an output of
about 200-220ps. It will be a milder engine than the S2000, and the
suspension tuning will also follow this route. Styling is said to be
heavily based on the S500/S600/S800, Honda's first 4 wheel
automotive. Dimensions will be slightly smaller than the S2000 with
an overall length of 4000mm, overall width of 1730mm, height of
1250mm, and wheelbase of 2400mm. That's about the same size as the
Mazda Roadster. The roof will be electric powered metal hardtop, and
the car should weight in at 1250kg, which is slightly heavier than
the Mazda, but the extra power in the S will more than make up for
it. It is also probable that the car will be available only with a
clutchless 6spd manual shift transmission. Release date is expected
to be near the end of 2008, with a price of 30,000,000yen



Sorry about the scanner, there are many photos in the magazine,
including a scan of the actual Type R proposal. At least there is one
image on the cover.

akiraNSX...


TOV Commentary: I just can't bite my lip on this. First of all, regarding the news of the supposed S2000 Type R, all I can say is "It's about time." And "Where do I send my deposit?", especially after reading about the toned down successor they're apparently working on. As a proud S2000 owner since the car was launched over 7 years ago, I'm a little shocked (and saddened) to hear that Honda has allegedly decided to shift the S2000 in this direction. All I can say is thank goodness they didn't go the 4-door or FF routes! That would be AWFUL and very 'un-Honda' - just as bad and 'un-Honda' as making the NSX successor an overweight front-engined and AWD me-too car.

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JMU R1
01-26-2007 23:17
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
klui_188
01-27-2007 03:18
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
JJM
01-27-2007 00:33
Message below viewing threshold View   (Score: 0, Normal)
Mugenkoo
01-27-2007 15:52
Message below viewing threshold View   (Score: 0, Normal)
TonyEX
01-28-2007 01:29
Message below viewing threshold View   (Score: 0, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-27-2007 03:33
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
JJM
01-27-2007 04:44
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
fasthonda
01-27-2007 09:11
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
Nick GravesX
01-28-2007 02:25
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
JIRZLEE
01-28-2007 11:07
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
klui_188
01-28-2007 15:22
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
Nick GravesX
01-28-2007 15:38
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
JMU R1
01-28-2007 16:55
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
01-28-2007 22:41
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
roninsi02
01-29-2007 01:36
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-29-2007 03:14
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
JIRZLEE
01-29-2007 06:09
Re: The King is dead, long live the King   (Score: 1, Normal)
Nick GravesX
01-27-2007 13:20
New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
Vader
01-27-2007 13:40
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-27-2007 16:11
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
Vader
01-27-2007 19:15
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-27-2007 22:14
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
PJS
01-27-2007 23:10
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
roninsi02
01-28-2007 01:01
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
looah
01-28-2007 17:44
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
aznstuart
01-28-2007 22:33
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
SandForBlood
01-28-2007 22:33
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
roninsi02
01-29-2007 13:38
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
Wizard
01-29-2007 20:37
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
own4
01-31-2007 05:37
Re: New S2000 + New Acura Car   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-29-2007 20:10
What the @#$!   (Score: 1, Normal)
ACCORDing to JC
01-29-2007 14:09
Next RX7 based on Miata   (Score: 1, Normal)
JJM
01-29-2007 15:42
Re: Next RX7 based on Miata   (Score: 1, Normal)
DCR
01-26-2007 15:06
Return of the hexa-grill!   (Score: 1, Normal)
Wizard
01-29-2007 09:11
Re: Return of the hexa-grill!   (Score: 1, Normal)
80honda
01-26-2007 15:26
TypeR S2000 in the US?? Don't think so... but who knows !   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-26-2007 16:10
Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
01-26-2007 16:19
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
Wizard
01-26-2007 16:27
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
blu
01-26-2007 16:25
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-26-2007 16:40
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
AznSupastar
01-26-2007 16:56
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
HONDAxACURA
01-26-2007 18:31
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-26-2007 18:37
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
01-26-2007 18:33
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-26-2007 19:03
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-26-2007 19:06
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-26-2007 22:44
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
silverf161
01-26-2007 22:55
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
JMU R1
01-27-2007 09:04
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
Casablanca
01-27-2007 21:13
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
hprelude5r
01-28-2007 01:24
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-28-2007 02:32
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
JIRZLEE
01-28-2007 06:15
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
hprelude5r
01-28-2007 21:41
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
*Dyabolikal*
01-28-2007 22:20
Re: Why not? The US is one of the few successful markets for S2k   (Score: 1, Normal)
CarPhreakD
01-26-2007 16:35
Re: TypeR S2000 in the US?? Don't think so... but who knows !   (Score: 1, Normal)
6SPDTL
01-27-2007 09:49
Re: TypeR S2000 in the US?? Don't think so... but who knows !   (Score: 1, Normal)
HondaSales2
01-27-2007 20:40
Re: TypeR S2000 in the US?? Don't think so... but who knows !   (Score: 1, Normal)
silverf161
01-27-2007 21:16
Re: TypeR S2000 in the US?? Don't think so... but who knows !   (Score: 1, Normal)
WongKN
01-26-2007 19:34
I'll buy an S2000 Type R   (Score: 1, Normal)
kiwikungfu
01-26-2007 23:15
Re: I'll buy an S2000 Type R   (Score: 1, Normal)
klui_188
01-27-2007 09:07
Re: I'll buy an S2000 Type R   (Score: 1, Normal)
Casablanca
01-27-2007 03:02
As an AP2 owner I would buy one. :-)   (Score: 1, Normal)
JJM
01-27-2007 09:04
Re: As an AP2 owner I would buy one. :-)   (Score: 1, Normal)
Nick GravesX
01-26-2007 21:26
Make Mine Black with SH-AWD &   (Score: 1, Normal)
Hemlock
01-27-2007 00:35
Re: Make Mine Black with SH-AWD &   (Score: 1, Normal)
zapata
01-27-2007 00:01
If they kept the current s2k and released this ....   (Score: 1, Normal)
x Fg2 Si x
01-26-2007 19:45
sound deadening??   (Score: 1, Normal)
HondaTypeR
01-26-2007 19:50
Re: sound deadening??   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
01-26-2007 22:49
Re: sound deadening??   (Score: 1, Normal)
silverf161
01-26-2007 22:56
Re: sound deadening??   (Score: 1, Normal)
JMU R1
01-26-2007 18:53
is this fact, opinions or assumptions?   (Score: 1, Normal)
garoto628
01-26-2007 15:39
Commercial sense prevails   (Score: 1, Normal)
Nick GravesX
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