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S2000 Type R Coming? And What's Going On With the NEXT Generation S2000?
 Date: January 26, 2007 14:51
 Submitted by:  JeffX
 Source: February 26 issue of BestCar Magazine (via AkiraNSX)
 Credibility Rating: Not Specified


AkiraNSX is on a roll today, shortly after submitting the pics from the Tokyo Auto Salon, he dropped this little bombshell in my inbox:

Hi Jeff,

The Feb 26th issue of Best Car has an article about "the final
version of S2000" and its successor. I thought it's something
everyone would like to know about, so I bought it, took it home, and
my scanner decides to give up its ghost. Oh well, I'll summarize what
I read though.

The Last S2000
"Loyal readers may remember that about 4 years ago, in 2003, Best Car
reported on the release of the S2000 Type R. Unfortunately it never
materialized. At that time, it was not just wild guesses and
Photoshop'ed art work. There was an actually S2000 Type R proposal
that leaked out from Honda sources describing the S2000 Type R. The
proposal was dropped at the last minute in favor of the 2.2L AP2 to
satisfy the need for more torque in the American market, while Japan
complained of the decision being very 'un-Honda.'"

Apparently Best Car has reason to believe that Honda is revisiting
this Type R proposal for the final model change for the S2000. They
call it the "lightweight package" and it will follow the Type R
proposal's target of 100kg weight reduction, bringing the car from
1250kg to 1150kg, changing the power to weight ratio from 5.16kg/ps
to 4.75kg/ps. This should provide performance at turbo levels but
with the direct feel of natural aspiration.

The S2000 Type R model year 2004 proposal (official document from
Honda) consisted of:
-target of 100kg weight reduction
-balanced engine internals (Type R treatment)
-Type R exclusive interior
-air conditioning becomes a factory option
-SRS air bag becomes a factory option
-sound deadening material deleted
-front tire: 205/55R16 to 205/45R17 (implemented on AP2)
-rear tire: 225/50R16 to 245/40R17 (implemented on AP2)
-Type R exclusive suspension tuning
-Type R exclusive uprated brakes
-Type R exclusive body color(s)
-spare tire deleted
-mechanical LSD
-power soft top deleted
-lightweight carbon hard top
-audio becomes factory option

The S2000 is expected to be discontinued before March 2008, so the
lightweight package should be sold sometime between now and then.

The next S
Honda has been tossing around many ideas on the next S. From 4 door
sports car to FF compact sports. But it seems they have decided to
stay with the FR roadster format, and are preparing a concept car in
time for the discontinuation of the S2000. But instead of targeting
the likes of SLK and Z4, they are going to go with a 2.0L engine and
battle it out with the long-time popular Mazda Roadster (Miata in
US). Engine will be the new Advanced VTEC K20A with an output of
about 200-220ps. It will be a milder engine than the S2000, and the
suspension tuning will also follow this route. Styling is said to be
heavily based on the S500/S600/S800, Honda's first 4 wheel
automotive. Dimensions will be slightly smaller than the S2000 with
an overall length of 4000mm, overall width of 1730mm, height of
1250mm, and wheelbase of 2400mm. That's about the same size as the
Mazda Roadster. The roof will be electric powered metal hardtop, and
the car should weight in at 1250kg, which is slightly heavier than
the Mazda, but the extra power in the S will more than make up for
it. It is also probable that the car will be available only with a
clutchless 6spd manual shift transmission. Release date is expected
to be near the end of 2008, with a price of 30,000,000yen



Sorry about the scanner, there are many photos in the magazine,
including a scan of the actual Type R proposal. At least there is one
image on the cover.

akiraNSX...


TOV Commentary: I just can't bite my lip on this. First of all, regarding the news of the supposed S2000 Type R, all I can say is "It's about time." And "Where do I send my deposit?", especially after reading about the toned down successor they're apparently working on. As a proud S2000 owner since the car was launched over 7 years ago, I'm a little shocked (and saddened) to hear that Honda has allegedly decided to shift the S2000 in this direction. All I can say is thank goodness they didn't go the 4-door or FF routes! That would be AWFUL and very 'un-Honda' - just as bad and 'un-Honda' as making the NSX successor an overweight front-engined and AWD me-too car.

Last edited by JeffX on February 01, 2008 09:48

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King77 12
  A mistake.
DCR 90
  Dodge Demon
Nick GravesX 2
  S2000 weight
HondaTypeR 3
  Bss Aackwards
MARCVTEC2000 0
  If it's true for the U.S., here's a reason:
Aaron97SH1 9
  hahaha the front looks like a bug
Powered by Honda 6
  1960s Sx00 touches
80honda 17
  I must ask my VTEC friends for some huge help.
The_SiGuy 1
  If this S2000 replacement was called CRX...
Colin 19
  The King is dead, long live the King
TonyEX 31
  New S2000 + New Acura Car
Vader 12
  What the @#$!
ACCORDing to JC 0
  Next RX7 based on Miata
JJM 1
  Return of the hexa-grill!
Wizard 1
  TypeR S2000 in the US?? Don't think so... but who knows !
danielgr 24
  I'll buy an S2000 Type R
kiwikungfu 2
  As an AP2 owner I would buy one. :-)
JJM 1
  Make Mine Black with SH-AWD &
Hemlock 1
  If they kept the current s2k and released this ....
x Fg2 Si x 0
  sound deadening??
HondaTypeR 3
  is this fact, opinions or assumptions?
garoto628 0
  Commercial sense prevails
Nick GravesX 0
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