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 Date: April 07, 2004 15:20
 Submitted by:  JeffX
 Source: TOV News
 Credibility Rating: N/A


7:25 PM - The exclusive galleries are ready (with more photos to be added). Visit the Exhaust Notes section to view the galleries. There you can see the carbon fiber driveshafts that the SH-AWD system uses. You can also see the extensive use of aluminum, with full aluminum subframes front and rear and forged aluminum suspension pieces. We also got a photo of the sticker in the doorjamb which shows the "original tire size": 245/50R17. Keep in mind that this car is a prototype, but the sticker sure looked like a production piece.

5:05 PM -- The first video clip is available for download (with 3 different bitrates). It shows the '05 RL Concept as it first drives onto the stage.


Windows Media Video Clip - 12.0MB (VBR, 480x360)
DivX Video Clip - 5.10MB (300kbps, 320x240)
DivX Video Clip - 6.96MB (450kbps, 480x360)
(Right click and "Save Target As..." to download)

3:15 PM -- Our own photos are currently being processed. Apologies for the delay in getting those out. We interviewed (on video) the product planner and that took some time. Also there were big crowds surrounding the car for quite a while so it was difficult to get clean shots. Overall I like the car, but this car will overlap quite a bit with the TL. It's like a TL Plus. There is a lot of content, but judging by the (not-quite-production) trimmings, there are still elements of the car that indicate it was engineered to a price point.

A few things we noticed on the prototype:

  • no evidence of power adjusting rear seats (contrary to an earlier rumor).
  • manual sunshades on rear side windows and a power sunshade on the backlight
  • onstar
  • full auto up/down on all 4 windows
  • exterior electric trunk release (as on TSX, but missing on TL)
  • nicely finished trunk, however the hinges are still not the articulating kind.
  • power tilt/telescope steering wheel
Supposedly there are possibly a few more features that will appear on the production model.

9:55 AM The Temple of VTEC is here in New York for the 2004 New York International Auto show and we'll be bringing coverage from the show as the day progresses. We will update this news item periodically with a sampling of photos. A comprehensive photo gallery will be published in the "Exhaust Notes" section of the site. The comprehensive gallery will be available only to registered users of the TOV.


Last edited by JeffX on April 09, 2004 13:07

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04-08-2004 15:46
Any linkage to Acura's being made domestically   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-12-2004 19:53
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04-14-2004 01:04
"flat spotting tires"   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-10-2004 20:45
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04-11-2004 00:31
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04-11-2004 15:22
See the NY Times For Some Perspective of the RL   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-10-2004 02:37
JUST CAME FROM NY AUTO SHOW....HERE'S WHAT I THINK.........   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-10-2004 03:11
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04-10-2004 12:07
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04-10-2004 19:04
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04-08-2004 09:13
RL will look bad with 17s   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 12:19
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04-09-2004 12:43
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04-09-2004 14:29
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04-10-2004 18:37
Re: RL will look bad with 17s   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-10-2004 19:33
Re: RL will look bad with 17s   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-10-2004 15:00
Rear Seat Comment   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 23:18
Growing on me or is it that the Auto Show pics are better   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 02:37
Re: Growing on me or is it that the Auto Show pics are better   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 09:17
Re: Growing on me or is it that the Auto Show pics are better   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 14:41
Re: Growing on me or is it that the Auto Show pics are better   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 15:33
Re: Growing on me or is it that the Auto Show pics are better   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 21:47
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04-09-2004 23:20
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04-10-2004 01:35
Re: Growing on me or is it that the Auto Show pics are better   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 03:42
SH-AWD a is "world's first"?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 15:53
Re: SH-AWD a is "world's first"?   (Score: 1, Normal)
notyper
04-09-2004 13:54
RL looks like...   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 15:07
Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive System (SH-AWD)   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 10:38
Re: Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive System (SH-AWD)   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 11:49
be sure to check the "Exhaust Notes" section   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 09:36
*** Questions for Jeff on the new RL ***   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 10:07
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04-08-2004 10:25
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04-08-2004 10:31
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04-08-2004 11:07
Correction, Jeff   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 14:35
absolutely correct   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 11:29
Re: *** Questions for Jeff on the new RL ***   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 14:59
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04-09-2004 11:49
Latest rumors   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 20:37
Question For Jeff .. How much Torque??   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 10:39
Re: Question For Jeff .. How much Torque??   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 11:46
A guesstimate   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-09-2004 08:52
My GOD!!! THE LEGEND IS REBORN!!!!!!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 03:27
any air conditioning outlet for rear seats?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 13:43
Re: any air conditioning outlet for rear seats?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 11:14
No CDS on '05 RL???   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 18:09
onstar   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 21:18
Re: onstar   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 23:42
Re: onstar   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 10:44
Re: onstar   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 01:57
Where do they build this car?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 03:02
Most likely, SAITAMA, JAPAN N/M   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 09:49
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04-08-2004 07:16
LED tails?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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The Video Clip Didn't Work   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 21:41
I figued it out!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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I figued it out!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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Re: I figued it out!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-08-2004 00:13
modability   (Score: 1, Normal)
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Cadillac Catera styling...   (Score: 1, Normal)
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05 Element   (Score: 1, Normal)
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Re: 05 Element   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:34
Hopes are HIGH!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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Re: Hopes are HIGH!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 21:44
What about electric motors   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 22:25
Re: Hopes are HIGH!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 22:17
no electric motors?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:45
P DOGG   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 20:47
Re: P DOGG   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 09:57
The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:20
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:26
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:49
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:26
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 10:39
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 11:04
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 20:25
Re: The wait is killing me!   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 17:35
Where's the F1 padles?   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 18:02
Re: Where's the F1 padles?   (Score: 1, Normal)
eidji
04-07-2004 17:27
Can't view the movie   (Score: 1, Normal)
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04-07-2004 17:43
download the divx plugin   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
04-07-2004 17:19
Acura Legend...RL   (Score: 1, Normal)
Prox Enmity
04-07-2004 15:47
Fender-wheel gap   (Score: 1, Normal)
nuclrxn
04-07-2004 16:51
Re: Fender-wheel gap   (Score: 1, Normal)
carscars
04-07-2004 17:08
Re: Fender-wheel gap   (Score: 1, Normal)
lycos
04-07-2004 17:05
Disappointed in SE-R   (Score: 1, Normal)
Accord Lover
04-07-2004 16:25
Honda is not a picturesque car company.   (Score: 1, Normal)
Power Of Dreams
04-07-2004 16:59
Nor is it bohemiam... more calvinist I think   (Score: 1, Normal)
TonyEX
04-07-2004 16:16
ALL THE NEWS IS RIGHT HERE...   (Score: 1, Normal)
fa442fa
04-07-2004 11:33
PICTURES LINK   (Score: 1, Normal)
nick79
04-07-2004 11:33
sorry corrected   (Score: 1, Normal)
nick79
04-07-2004 10:48
2005 RL PIX are on the web   (Score: 1, Normal)
nick79
04-07-2004 10:52
Re: Give us the LINK Nick!!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
Paul Perakos
04-07-2004 10:56
Re: Give us the LINK Nick!!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
King77
04-07-2004 11:00
Re: Give us the LINK Nick!!!!   (Score: 1, Normal)
AcuraTLjaTT559
04-07-2004 11:03
Re: 2005 RL PIX are on the web   (Score: 1, Normal)
Bitiumx2
04-07-2004 11:05
Re: 2005 RL PIX are on the web   (Score: 1, Normal)
Paul Perakos
04-07-2004 11:11
Re: 2005 RL PIX are on the web   (Score: 1, Normal)
mkrsx2003
04-07-2004 11:09
Re: 2005 RL PIX are on the web   (Score: 1, Normal)
King77
04-07-2004 11:30
Re: 2005 RL PIX are on the web   (Score: 1, Normal)
Suomi
04-07-2004 11:20
How long before the RL is unveiled?   (Score: 1, Normal)
ChthonicPowers
04-07-2004 11:30
PRESS CONFERENCE AT NOON   (Score: 1, Normal)
RichMack
04-07-2004 11:28
Install a webcam on someone's head! =)   (Score: 1, Normal)
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