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Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 08:07
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Regal 3,705
TSX 2,794 +31.6%
IS 2,081 +4.5%
1 series 864 +10.6%
A3 386 -11.1%

CTS 6,033 +124.3%
3 series 4,872 -28.5%
C class 4,479 +5.5%
LaCrosse 4,329 +7%
Gsedan 4,044 +50.6%; coupe 1,448 +14%
A5 2,770 +4.1%
ES 2,598 +10.6%
TL 2,447 +1.5%
MKZ 1,775 +.8%

5 series 4,212 +85.6
E class 4,203 +4%
DTS 1,512 +147.5%
M 1,178 +44.2%
A5 594 +17.2%
MKS 568 -52%
GS 349 -28.5%
RL 168 +28.2%

7 series 1,109 +23.4%
Town Car 943 -14%
LS 706 -11.6%
S class 659 -7.8%
A8 361 +961.8%

RX 6,567 +15.3%
x3 1,987 +466.1%
GLK 1,853 -12.8%
Q5 1,539 +45.2%
RDX 1,344 +58.1%
EX 507 -11.8%

SRX 5,502 +55.3%
Enclave 5,199 +37.6%
MDX 3,845 +17.7%
x5 2,646 -10.6%
M class 1,924 +16.3%
MKX 1,638 +12.7%
FX 1,065 +20.3%
GX 1,051 -28.6%

x6 404 -18.2%
ZDX 198 +24.5%

Versa 10,578 -8.9%
Fiesta 6,270
Accent 4,504
Fit 4,200 +43.6%
Aveo 2,760 +33.9%
Rabbit/Golf 2,472 +18.4%
Yaris 1,946 -53%
Rio 1,852
SX4 788 +4%
2 870

Corolla 25,860 +52.2%
Civic 19,121 +16.1%
Cruze 18,556
Sentra 12,599 +62.2%
Jetta 12,591 +60.8%
Elantra 12,280
Focus 10,879 -20.6%
3 8,077 -1.7%
Forte 5,304
Impreza 3,933 +40.3%
Caliber 3,445 +52%
Lancer 964 -6.2%

Camry 27,212 +64.4%
Fusion 23,111 +40.4%
Accord 22,916 +2%
Altima 20,808 +28.5%
Malibu 19,092 +26%
Sonata 15,723
Optima 4,844
Avenger 3,477 +1%
Galant 3,245 +272%
Legacy 3,242 +24%
6 2,838 +16.9%
200 2,319
Kizashi 351 +60%
Passat 71 -95.6%

Impala 16,290 +38.8%
Taurus 5,620 -11.6%
Maxima 5,318 +.3%
Avalon 2,026 +176.8%
300 1,323 -71%
Azera 167

Prius 13,539 +69.9%
Insight 1,722 -14.5%
CR-Z 1,091
Volt 281
HS 183 -74.3%
LEAF 67

Camaro 6,245 -3.7%
Mustang 3,697 -27.7%
Challenger 3,263 +50%
Genesis 2,441
370z 571 -18.3%
RX-8 72 -6.5%

OutBack 7,951 +28.5%
Venza 2,551 -25.3%
Accord CrossTour 1,710 -29.7%
Passat Wagon 15 -93.9%

Soul 6,684
Cube 2,248 -20.1%
xB 1,475 -4.2%
Element 1,241 +35%

CR-V 19,096 +61.4%
Escape 18,005 +18.8%
Rav4 12,562 +85.8%
Rogue 11,427 +86%
Traverse 9,533 +62.1%
Forester 6,334 +.3%
Sportage 3,965
Tucson 3,342
CX-7 2,357 +31.2%
Tiguan 2,172 +28.5%
OutLander 629 -36.7%
Equator 127 +100%

Equinox 15,434 +91.5%
Edge 10,138 +16.6%
Explorer 9,657 +139.2%
HighLander 8,622 +138.5%
Pilot 8,224 +23.3%
Murano 5,254 +29.5%
Journey 4,884 +18%
SanteFe 4,276
Sorento 8,641
CX-9 2,876 +42.8%
Toureg 438 +53.7%
Tribeca 223 +27.4%
Endeavor 190 -67.2%

Caravan 10,555 +12%
Sienna 8,806 +118.3%
Odyssey 8,744 +17.3%
Town & Country 7,804 -25%
Flex 2,352 -16.1%
5 1,711 -13.4%
Sedona 1,403
Quest 832 +1,834.9%
Routan 710 -36.6%
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 08:12
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AutoBlog's By the #s Chart
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 08:43
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BMW Leads U.S. Luxury Sales in February as Cadillac Tops Lexus, Mercedes
Cadillacís incentive spending rose 43% from last February to average $4,878 per vehicle, according to TrueCar.com, a Santa Monica, California-based website that tracks industry incentives. Cadillacís incentives were the highest of any luxury brand and above the average of $3,500 per car spent by all luxury lines in the U.S., TrueCar estimated.

BMWís incentives fell 23% from last year, to $3,674 per car, while Mercedes discounts rose 4.4% to $3,289 per vehicle, TrueCar said. Toyota spent an average of $2,295 per vehicle on Lexus incentives, up 39%, TrueCar said.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 09:33
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Great job again TSX69!

Quite a few WOW #'s this month. Should be pointed out that Toyota's #'s are useless as many of their vehicles were not available for sale this time last year due to the brake pedal issues.

As for the domestics, some #'s are truly impressive, some clearly fed by incentives and others I have to think were fleet purchases. Impala up 38%??

Question for the forum: Do fleet sales include an incentive?? I assume there is some negotiation or volume discount but does that count towards their overall incentive spending? Just curious?
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 09:33
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Equinox and Traverse in wrong section?

Oh, and the Escape......over half of those sales has to be to the TLC here in NYC, lol!
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 09:52
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DevilMayCry wrote:
Equinox and Traverse in wrong section?
Opps!

CR-V 19,096 +61.4%
Escape 18,005 +18.8%
Equinox 15,434 +91.5%
Rav4 12,562 +85.8%
Rogue 11,427 +86%
Forester 6,334 +.3%
Sportage 3,965
Tucson 3,342
CX-7 2,357 +31.2%
Tiguan 2,172 +28.5%
OutLander 629 -36.7%
Equator 127 +100%

Edge 10,138 +16.6%
Explorer 9,657 +139.2%
Traverse 9,533 +62.1%
HighLander 8,622 +138.5%
Pilot 8,224 +23.3%
Murano 5,254 +29.5%
Journey 4,884 +18%
SanteFe 4,276
Sorento 8,641
CX-9 2,876 +42.8%
Toureg 438 +53.7%
Tribeca 223 +27.4%
Endeavor 190 -67.2%

Longhorn
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 10:13
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The Cruze, CTS and Regal numbers are impressive,they are not fleet sales. The marketing money put behind the Cruze is achieving great results, the CTS wagaon and coupe are definately helping and the Regal production will be moving from Germany to Canada in a couple of months so those numbers will rise too.

The Ford Explorer is off to a good start and will only get better once Ford gets its production issues in order. This vehicle in some ways is better than the Pilot.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 10:19
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In a test comparison of 9 crossovers the Dodge Journey was tested with CR-V. Does it belong in that class too? (the nine in the test were: Equinox, Journey, Sportage, Forester, Tucson, CR-V, Rogue, Escape and RAV 4, in the order of test results).
98EX4cyl
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 10:22
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Longhorn wrote:
The Cruze, CTS and Regal numbers are impressive,they are not fleet sales. The marketing money put behind the Cruze is achieving great results, the CTS wagaon and coupe are definately helping and the Regal production will be moving from Germany to Canada in a couple of months so those numbers will rise too.

The Ford Explorer is off to a good start and will only get better once Ford gets its production issues in order. This vehicle in some ways is better than the Pilot.



Saw my first new Explorer the other day and its attractive on the outside, more so than the Pilot IMHO. I noticed from the B-pillar back the windows seem small and the pillars seem too big - I wonder what the rear visibility is like?
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 10:48
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P54 wrote:
In a test comparison of 9 crossovers the Dodge Journey was tested with CR-V. Does it belong in that class too? (the nine in the test were: Equinox, Journey, Sportage, Forester, Tucson, CR-V, Rogue, Escape and RAV 4, in the order of test results).
Oh ... yeah, it probably does go in the CR-V area. I am not at all familiar w/ the Journey so I looked @ where Consumer Guide put it & followed their example of grouping it w/ the Pilot:

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2011-dodge-journey.htm
aznxthuggie
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 11:52
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Thanks tsx69

following the mainstream groupings like consumerguide would be better than following some mags comparison.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 12:09
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Longhorn wrote:
The Cruze, CTS and Regal numbers are impressive,they are not fleet sales. The marketing money put behind the Cruze is achieving great results, the CTS wagaon and coupe are definately helping and the Regal production will be moving from Germany to Canada in a couple of months so those numbers will rise too.

The Ford Explorer is off to a good start and will only get better once Ford gets its production issues in order. This vehicle in some ways is better than the Pilot.




The Pilot needs that MMC pronto.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 12:54
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98EX4cyl wrote:
Longhorn wrote:
The Cruze, CTS and Regal numbers are impressive,they are not fleet sales. The marketing money put behind the Cruze is achieving great results, the CTS wagaon and coupe are definately helping and the Regal production will be moving from Germany to Canada in a couple of months so those numbers will rise too.

The Ford Explorer is off to a good start and will only get better once Ford gets its production issues in order. This vehicle in some ways is better than the Pilot.



Saw my first new Explorer the other day and its attractive on the outside, more so than the Pilot IMHO. I noticed from the B-pillar back the windows seem small and the pillars seem too big - I wonder what the rear visibility is like?



I checked out the Explorer at the Chicago Auto Show - I didn't examine it in great detail but I think the key thing it has going for it is the exterior design. I wasn't all that impressed by the interior - it really reminded me of a vintage Ford body-on-frame SUV interior dating back to the '90s. The Pilot's packaging and interior finishing seem miles ahead of the Explorer but I've never cared for the current Pilot's exterior styling. Something just looks wrong with the front end styling and the overall boximus maximus design theme turns me off.

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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 17:42
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+1
I owned one, but my choice landed to Honda Pilot not because of the front end. It is actually one of the negatives that I have about the truck. But, the overall package is just the best out there compared to Toyota and Mazda. I was thinking of getting the Acadia, but was afraid of the long term quality.

Jeff wrote:
98EX4cyl wrote:
Longhorn wrote:
The Cruze, CTS and Regal numbers are impressive,they are not fleet sales. The marketing money put behind the Cruze is achieving great results, the CTS wagaon and coupe are definately helping and the Regal production will be moving from Germany to Canada in a couple of months so those numbers will rise too.

The Ford Explorer is off to a good start and will only get better once Ford gets its production issues in order. This vehicle in some ways is better than the Pilot.



Saw my first new Explorer the other day and its attractive on the outside, more so than the Pilot IMHO. I noticed from the B-pillar back the windows seem small and the pillars seem too big - I wonder what the rear visibility is like?



I checked out the Explorer at the Chicago Auto Show - I didn't examine it in great detail but I think the key thing it has going for it is the exterior design. I wasn't all that impressed by the interior - it really reminded me of a vintage Ford body-on-frame SUV interior dating back to the '90s. The Pilot's packaging and interior finishing seem miles ahead of the Explorer but I've never cared for the current Pilot's exterior styling. Something just looks wrong with the front end styling and the overall boximus maximus design theme turns me off.



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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-02-2011 18:50
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I do agree that if styling is not a concern, the Pilot is a great overall package, but that's really how it is nowadays with most Honda products.
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Unlike the TL & especially the RL, the Pilot's sales are not bad so I doubt that the MMC will be that drastic. Hopefully it will get the 6 speed like the Odyssey, since increasing MPGs seems to be Honda's thing for FMC & MMCs lately ...
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Two major reason why I chose Pilot vs others:
1. I would like to stay with Honda brand (reliable and quality product)
2. Other SUV (this is back in 09) is not as usable as Pilot.

4 SUVs that I considered were Pilot, Highlander, CX-9 and Acadia. Highlander's utility is a joke. With 3 rows up, I cannot put a stroller on the back. CX-9 was a close second. But, the features (cannot get sunroof and RES) and the 2nd row seat operations is a turn off. Space is also not so great, although the space behind the 3rd row is pretty good. Also, Mazda's quality is still questionable. Acadia is a big question mark for me due to "GM" quality. I want to keep the car for many years and miles.
So, if many people are thinking the same way as I am, they are left with no choice but buying Honda Pilot.

TSX69 wrote:
Unlike the TL & especially the RL, the Pilot's sales are not bad so I doubt that the MMC will be that drastic. Hopefully it will get the 6 speed like the Odyssey, since increasing MPGs seems to be Honda's thing for FMC & MMCs lately ...

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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-03-2011 16:57
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Camry 27,212 +64.4%
Fusion 23,111 +40.4%
Accord 22,916 +2%
Altima 20,808 +28.5%
Malibu 19,092 +26%
Sonata 15,723
Optima 4,844
Avenger 3,477 +1%
Galant 3,245 +272%
Legacy 3,242 +24%
6 2,838 +16.9%
200 2,319
Kizashi 351 +60%
Passat 71 -95.6%

Looks like the Optima is still selling mid-pack. I'm willing to bet that will change over the next couple of months... I saw a new red one parked in the neighborhood today and I must say it was one beauty. It looked more expensive than it should be, especially from the rear.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-03-2011 20:30
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Looks at the market share loss of hte Accord to the top sellers. OUCH!!! Top 5 had 25% gains or more. Accord was roughly flat. That's not encouraging.

Camry 27,212 +64.4%
Fusion 23,111 +40.4%
Accord 22,916 +2%
Altima 20,808 +28.5%
Malibu 19,092 +26%
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-04-2011 10:18
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BalIermd wrote:

Camry 27,212 +64.4%
Fusion 23,111 +40.4%
Accord 22,916 +2%
Altima 20,808 +28.5%
Malibu 19,092 +26%
Sonata 15,723
Optima 4,844
Avenger 3,477 +1%
Galant 3,245 +272%
Legacy 3,242 +24%
6 2,838 +16.9%
200 2,319
Kizashi 351 +60%
Passat 71 -95.6%

Looks like the Optima is still selling mid-pack. I'm willing to bet that will change over the next couple of months... I saw a new red one parked in the neighborhood today and I must say it was one beauty. It looked more expensive than it should be, especially from the rear.



I must agree with you, I saw a silver one yesterday, and it does look expensive for what it is.
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It looks better than the swoopy melting Sonata
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-05-2011 15:12
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Corolla 25,860 +52.2%
Civic 19,121 +16.1%
Cruze 18,556
Sentra 12,599 +62.2%
Jetta 12,591 +60.8%
Elantra 12,280
Focus 10,879 -20.6%
3 8,077 -1.7%
Forte 5,304
Impreza 3,933 +40.3%
Caliber 3,445 +52%
Lancer 964 -6.2%

According to Hyundai, it sold 8,830 cars with 40-mpg EPA fuel economy highway ratings (i.e. 2011 Elantra sedan) during the month of February.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-06-2011 13:24
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Longhorn wrote:
BalIermd wrote:

Camry 27,212 +64.4%
Fusion 23,111 +40.4%
Accord 22,916 +2%
Altima 20,808 +28.5%
Malibu 19,092 +26%
Sonata 15,723
Optima 4,844
Avenger 3,477 +1%
Galant 3,245 +272%
Legacy 3,242 +24%
6 2,838 +16.9%
200 2,319
Kizashi 351 +60%
Passat 71 -95.6%

Looks like the Optima is still selling mid-pack. I'm willing to bet that will change over the next couple of months... I saw a new red one parked in the neighborhood today and I must say it was one beauty. It looked more expensive than it should be, especially from the rear.



I must agree with you, I saw a silver one yesterday, and it does look expensive for what it is.



_Yeah but the interior is not that good. I drove one and while it drove nice the interior left much to be desired in my opinion (in terms of fit/quality/choice of materials/layout).
 
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