I had the chance to wander out to one of my local Honda dealerships and they have a white EXL AWD sitting outside on display. I have heard comments that this thing was huge. It's a good size but I did not think it was a whale. For the people that don't like it in photos, I think your opinion won't change when you see it in person. Inside looks and feels like the Accord sedan with the exception of some very nice carpet. Acura quality. Back seat room looked painful for large adults, especially if you’re tall. I did not drive it but as with the ZDX trying to get a proper view out the back could be challenging. Overall it's a nice addition to the Accord lineup and can see 30 to 40k per year in sales. My only real concern is the nearly 35k price tag puts in the league with allot of other choices..
I am 6'3" and can assure you there is no shortage of space in the back of the crosstour, having sat there. Slightly less legroom in the 4WD version than the sedan, but more headroom. Honda's figures confirm this.
PGH wrote: .... Back seat room looked painful for large adults, especially if you’re tall. ....
Really, I don't think I've every heard anyone refer to the rear seat room in an Accord as painful.
Really- I was talking about the CT not the Accord sedan. Since you are an expert on every subject and I you have driven one why don't you give us your review?
PGH wrote: .... Back seat room looked painful for large adults, especially if you’re tall. ....
Really, I don't think I've every heard anyone refer to the rear seat room in an Accord as painful.
Really- I was talking about the CT not the Accord sedan. Since you are an expert on every subject and I you have driven one why don't you give us your review?
Since the 2WD Crosstour is listed as having MORE rear room than the Sedan, why don't you tell us why in your opinion the rear seat room in the Accord Sedan and Crosstour are "painful".
My local Honda dealer recieved their first Crosstour earlier this week. I went back to look at it again but it had already been sold. It was an EX 2Wd with cloth seats. I wasn't able to get into the car & really take a good good look of the interior. Overall I thought the car had strange proportions and had too much ground clerance from the normal Accord sedan. The cars window stiker was some where between $30,000.-$31,000 dollars. Seeng it in person I thought it looked better than the press photos that I have seen on the internet, If I were in the market for a vehicle like this I would choose the CR-V EX-L over the Crosstour.
Moses wrote: My local Honda dealer recieved their first Crosstour earlier this week. I went back to look at it again but it had already been sold. It was an EX 2Wd with cloth seats. I wasn't able to get into the car & really take a good good look of the interior. Overall I thought the car had strange proportions and had too much ground clerance from the normal Accord sedan. The cars window stiker was some where between $30,000.-$31,000 dollars. Seeng it in person I thought it looked better than the press photos that I have seen on the internet, If I were in the market for a vehicle like this I would choose the CR-V EX-L over the Crosstour.
I stopped by a local dealer this morning and looked at their one Crosstour on display. Same story here - 2wd EX with cloth and such, in black which I didn't care for much. Having read this thread I specifically walked around the car looking at the back. It looks (yeah, I know) like it has more rear seat room in general than the current sedan and definitely more than my "04 sedan which I parked next to it.
It's just a different car than we're accustomed to seeing on the road. I think the hatch idea works okay- the bend line in the hatch between the main back window and the 2nd Gen CRX window is easily 12-inches higher than the trunklid on my '04. Raise that point another 12-inches and it would be the wagon so many people seem to think they want now but apparently not when Honda made them. If anything, the car is simply lacking in detail meaning it doesn't look expensive. I had been thinking the CT looks better in red in the photos I've seen.
Coincidentally, there was an '08 A4 parked next to some Civics nearby - it's clear Honda pegged it for the design of the Civic sedan. The level of detail on the A4 would really improve the CT.
I has customers looking at one Saturday - they thought it drove beautifully, but felt it lacked luggage space and was far too big overall. They bought an 2010 CRV EXL, thankfully (and cancelled their deposit on an Audi). The extra Crosstour power wasn't important to them. We know how well the Crosstour drives - I just wonder how much that compromised rear luggage space is going to hurt sales. Four passengers and four suitcases is going to be tight.
Just saw it yesterday in person... did not have the "big" experience some mentioned, looked Accord sized to me, and it looked plainer than I expected, did not stick out too much. The rear view is of course quite different and hard to characterize... neither striking nor off-putting.
The front grill revealed too much of what was behind it, the mechanicals glared through in the sun light.
Rear seat did not look any roomier than regular Accord, if anything, less.
Test drove a loaded Crystal Black Pearl CT (4WD EX-L Navi) last weekend.
Personally, after seeing it in person I think it is a good looking car, particularly in black.
First impression from the drivers seat: If it wasn't for the wood trim and the blue gauges, I would have thought we were in our coupe ('09 EX-L) again.
On the backroads and highways it is noticably quieter, thanks to the Noise Cancellation hardware. There was a bit of wind noise coming from the doors, but nothing that couldn't be drowned out by soft music.
I did not like the rear visibility. It may just be me, since I'm not used to the Insight/Prius split window.
I can't say too much for the handling and whatnot except to say that it was not all that different from driving our Coupe in everyday situations, just a little higher up and the steering felt different (i think the ratios were changed).
At the end of the day, I wouldn't mind driving one of these. Unfortunately, I do mind paying the asking price.
Have not had a chance to drive yet but did stop in to see at local dealer. I was struck by how big it looks and how open the front grille is; shades of Chrysler? Still, much better looking than the photos led one to believe and a viable candidate to replace our '97 CR-V.
Interestingly, the dealer had one displayed (posed, really) next to a same-colored coupe and was very clear how similar the profiles are all the way to the back. Is this proscribed from Honda?
I wanted to add my .02. I stopped at a dealer and did my full 1st walk around, sat in the front and back seats, etc.
I was very impressed. If I didn't just buy a car, I would get this.
The trunk space was huge. There was some debate on usable space. I suppose it's all perspective. My coupe has 11 cu ft of space. The CrossTour has more than double the capacity and it works well. The rear window would take time to get used to.
I wished they had a 6MT option and I would trade up. It still can't tow what I need. So, I'm still shopping for our second car.
From a feature standpoint, it is loaded down. Very nice.
I do think Black is the best color for it - somehow the proportions look fine in dark colors. Price should not be an issue for selling them in Canada - they are only a little under Pilots, and you can pay more for CRVs (and ours are EXLs only). And it drives so well. The only possible issues are size - ie its too big for some people and their garages, the relative lack of luggage space despite this compared to CRV or Pilot, and rear visibility.
I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
acura-fan wrote: I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I finally got to see it too. In fact I did not dislike the styling, din't love it but it was OK. The points I made on utility, however were right on the money. Cargo space isn't much better than the sedan regardless of measurements since the hatc prevents a any sizeable box from fitting in there. The whole in the trunk doesn't improve the issue since its simple a rather deep but otherwise small well. Sales of 40K are pure fantasy. I sincerely doubt that this would sell any more than the ridgeline, which contrary to this is an outstandingly utilitarian vehicle notwithstanding its lack of "beauty". The ridgeline tried to be butch but ended up fugly. On the Pilot they did a much better job (hinsight is 20:20)!
acura-fan wrote: I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I'm sorry but Subaru's materials are dirt cheap, even Mazda's plastics are better. The RDX and CRV have superior materials inside.
acura-fan wrote: I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I'm sorry but Subaru's materials are dirt cheap, even Mazda's plastics are better. The RDX and CRV have superior materials inside.
I would hope the RDX would be more upscale than an Outback. The CRV? No way! I had three and that includes a 07. I have said it's the best-built Honda currently available. Very well put together inside. One more question Mr. Honda sales person- Have you driven the new OB? Whats's your opinion?
HondaMotorCo007 wrote: I'm sorry but Subaru's materials are dirt cheap, even Mazda's plastics are better. The RDX and CRV have superior materials inside.
Agreed, I shopped the Forrester earlier this year, I was shocked at the low quality look and feel of the interior plastics.
PGH wrote: Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I think it really comes down to personal prefences, though I can certainly see your point of view. I think the Subarus are nice utility cars, no frill, and priced accordingly. However, if you compare the price range to a Honda, would you rather get the Subaru or a Honda? For me, I would rather get a Honda (regardless whether its a sedan or crossover).
But then again, for a nice utility cars without frills, some people might shop the Subarus against the Hyundais. In this case, I am almost certain that final pricing will always favor the Hyundais. So, there lay my reasons that the Subarus are not priced properly. It is not priced to attract us enough to pull us away from the Hondas, yet it's not competitive enough with the Hyundais.
Again, I am pretty sure that this is one of those personal preference bias, some would agree, some would not, foo bar. However, I do agree that that if you look at the whole range, the CRV is the best value for the buck.
PGH wrote: Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I think it really comes down to personal prefences, though I can certainly see your point of view. I think the Subarus are nice utility cars, no frill, and priced accordingly. However, if you compare the price range to a Honda, would you rather get the Subaru or a Honda? For me, I would rather get a Honda (regardless whether its a sedan or crossover).
But then again, for a nice utility cars without frills, some people might shop the Subarus against the Hyundais. In this case, I am almost certain that final pricing will always favor the Hyundais. So, there lay my reasons that the Subarus are not priced properly. It is not priced to attract us enough to pull us away from the Hondas, yet it's not competitive enough with the Hyundais.
Again, I am pretty sure that this is one of those personal preference bias, some would agree, some would not, foo bar. However, I do agree that that if you look at the whole range, the CRV is the best value for the buck.
I understand your point. After 23 years of Honda's which include every gen CRV I ended up buying a 10 OB. I paid 23.5 for my OB which I do believe thats the price(MSRP) for a LX 4WD CRV. I can tell you with complete honesty that it is a better value than the CRV. It's much quieter, rides better, has more room and has a much more advanced 4WD system. It has a good basic warranty which includes road side assistance.
I have gotten some flack from the Honda fanboys on this site but I stand by what I say, and let's not forget I like my Honda's too and hope the new Civic meets my expectations of what I think Honda can acheive.
I just saw a silver EX 4WD on the lot. They marked it up $3995 to over $39,000. One guy looked at the car, then looked at the sticker and sputtered and shook his head and walked away.
I thought the design was not cohesive in photos, and for the most part in person it's the same. The gargantuan grille looked better, more expensive. The car is MASSIVE, tall, with a huge luggage rack, raised floor, big tires and long. The silver paint was quite poor, poor quality for a Honda. Inside up front was just like a regular Accord, and the rear legroom was good, though hardly any better than my 09 Fit. Headroom back there was a little cramped as well. Cargo space in back is pretty long and spacious, with a storage compartment underneath the floor, but with the seats folded, my Fit has 6 cu ft more space yet over 30" shorter in length!
At as much as 800 lbs heavier than a regular Accord, I can't see how it can match the EPA fuel estimates as the regular Accord V6, and it'll be even slower in acceleration. Much slower.
Why is this car $5000 more than an Accord EX sedan?
acura-fan wrote: I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I'm sorry but Subaru's materials are dirt cheap, even Mazda's plastics are better. The RDX and CRV have superior materials inside.
I would hope the RDX would be more upscale than an Outback. The CRV? No way! I had three and that includes a 07. I have said it's the best-built Honda currently available. Very well put together inside. One more question Mr. Honda sales person- Have you driven the new OB? Whats's your opinion?
Funny how you think i'm a Honda sales person when I have given the crosstour hell since it was announced. Its overpriced and overweight. But you have to give Honda credit where its due. I've actually been in an OB, my friend just bought one. It just doesn't seem like an attractive package: materials are less than stellar. The Accord's dash materials are softer and look like higher quality. Same can be said about the CRV esp the 2010.
There are Honda's that have cheap plastics: the Fit, and the Ody. But most Honda's including the Civic have quality interiors and if you don't believe me look at the reviews.
Subarus are just way over-hyped. Hyundai on the other hand deserves attention IMO. Their quality is already above Subaru.
CrystalFiveMT wrote: I just saw a silver EX 4WD on the lot. They marked it up $3995 to over $39,000. One guy looked at the car, then looked at the sticker and sputtered and shook his head and walked away.
I thought the design was not cohesive in photos, and for the most part in person it's the same. The gargantuan grille looked better, more expensive. The car is MASSIVE, tall, with a huge luggage rack, raised floor, big tires and long. The silver paint was quite poor, poor quality for a Honda. Inside up front was just like a regular Accord, and the rear legroom was good, though hardly any better than my 09 Fit. Headroom back there was a little cramped as well. Cargo space in back is pretty long and spacious, with a storage compartment underneath the floor, but with the seats folded, my Fit has 6 cu ft more space yet over 30" shorter in length!
At as much as 800 lbs heavier than a regular Accord, I can't see how it can match the EPA fuel estimates as the regular Accord V6, and it'll be even slower in acceleration. Much slower.
Why is this car $5000 more than an Accord EX sedan?
Wow for a change that is way more than in Canada. We only have EX-L'S here so 2wd to 4wd navi ranges from 34,900 CDN
to 38,900 CDN. Dealer's are not allowed to sell above MSRP.
It is also $510.00 more than a EX-L Accord V6 sedan.
I didn't find it too big. I work at a Honda dealer and do the PDI inspections and road test. The navi system, leather, carpeting, road noise, sound insulation are better than Accord Sedan and Coupe. I know I have a 08 Accord Coupe and have done technical training coarses for 10 Crosstour. As far as headroom in the back seat. I am 5ft 10 and I had lots of head and leg room. Never tried sitting in the back of my Coupe though. I found it had OK power off the line (dam VCM), my 4 cyl (5 M/T) Accord coupe feels quicker but it only weighs 32xxlbs and the Crosstour's I have driven were 4WD Navi and they weigh around 4000lbs.
I am considering Crosstour for myself. I find CR-V too small (narrow) and I am single (no kids). Some times I need a bit more space for Home Depot trips, etc than my Accord coupe can give me. Ridgeline may be another option for me.
acura-fan wrote: I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I'm sorry but Subaru's materials are dirt cheap, even Mazda's plastics are better. The RDX and CRV have superior materials inside.
I would hope the RDX would be more upscale than an Outback. The CRV? No way! I had three and that includes a 07. I have said it's the best-built Honda currently available. Very well put together inside. One more question Mr. Honda sales person- Have you driven the new OB? Whats's your opinion?
Funny how you think i'm a Honda sales person when I have given the crosstour hell since it was announced. Its overpriced and overweight. But you have to give Honda credit where its due. I've actually been in an OB, my friend just bought one. It just doesn't seem like an attractive package: materials are less than stellar. The Accord's dash materials are softer and look like higher quality. Same can be said about the CRV esp the 2010.
There are Honda's that have cheap plastics: the Fit, and the Ody. But most Honda's including the Civic have quality interiors and if you don't believe me look at the reviews.
Subarus are just way over-hyped. Hyundai on the other hand deserves attention IMO. Their quality is already above Subaru.
The Fit and Civic have pretty much the same level of plastics. They're both more than adequate compared with the competition.
acura-fan wrote: I went to an Auto Show and saw the CrossTour in person. Here is my take:
1. It definitely looked much better in person. The Facebook complainers should check it out in person, then they can say whatever they want.
2. Looked very big and masculine, especially from the front (the wife agreed), but if you compared it to a 4-door accord (right next to it), the size is roughly the same (as it should).
3. Trunk space was huge, I think you can fit a full size golf cart-bag across without folding any of the seat. The under-the-floor tray is a very nice feature.
4. Inside materials (seats/console/dashboard, etc) are nice, great feel, but basically an Accord (which is what we like).
5. The CrossTour we saw was a light green, AWD, loaded, and it looked very nice, but I think it will look much better either in Red or Black. Personal preference obviously.
6. The wife complained about the MSRP price and I agreed. It's bordering, if not invading, the RDX/TSX price.
7. No issue with the back seats for us, it felt like there was plenty of space. Felt like it was roomier than our 05 TL, maybe bordering ES350.
8. We didn't pay attention to its likeliness to the Coupe, so no comment there. I would think the others are correct.
9. Overall, it's a very nice car, but we don't like the price. For this reason, we think we're going with an RDX instead if the price difference is not material enough (TBD).
FYI, we looked at Accord, CRV, MDX, RDX, TL, RL, CTS, SRX, LaCrosse, Enclave, Legacy, Forrester, Outback, Tribeca, M35, G35, Tucson, Santa Fe, etc. I know it's random, but hey, it's an Auto Show.
By the way, the Subarus are nice, but they are not priced correctly. The Hyundais are nice and basic, but well, they are Hyundai (though the wife would not mind them at all for the price). I would think the competition is between the Hondas and Hyundais, not Subarus. If they can price the SRX closer to the RDX range, we will absolutely go for the SRX, it's a very very nice car (even the wife agreed). Again, just random comparisons, but hey, if you disagree, you can write your own comment.
So, if we are to buy today, the bottom line is:
Wife: RDX or CR-V or Tucson
Me: RDX or SRX
Final: Whatever she said.
We're stable young professionals, 30s, no kids. No Germans or Lexus for us.
Why are the Subaru’s not priced correctly? I personally think they are a bargain for what you get. A loaded outback 3.6 limited for 30k? If anything the RDX is the overpriced as is the Crosstour, plus it's ugly. The CRV seems be a solid choice but can also get a little pricey when loaded up. Oh yea you’re the Acura fan............
I'm sorry but Subaru's materials are dirt cheap, even Mazda's plastics are better. The RDX and CRV have superior materials inside.
I would hope the RDX would be more upscale than an Outback. The CRV? No way! I had three and that includes a 07. I have said it's the best-built Honda currently available. Very well put together inside. One more question Mr. Honda sales person- Have you driven the new OB? Whats's your opinion?
Funny how you think i'm a Honda sales person when I have given the crosstour hell since it was announced. Its overpriced and overweight. But you have to give Honda credit where its due. I've actually been in an OB, my friend just bought one. It just doesn't seem like an attractive package: materials are less than stellar. The Accord's dash materials are softer and look like higher quality. Same can be said about the CRV esp the 2010.
There are Honda's that have cheap plastics: the Fit, and the Ody. But most Honda's including the Civic have quality interiors and if you don't believe me look at the reviews.
Subarus are just way over-hyped. Hyundai on the other hand deserves attention IMO. Their quality is already above Subaru.
Over hyped? Not quite. I see allot of positive reviews. Remember I have owned Honda's and Acura's for 23 years. I know a good Honda or Acura. Let me see...89 legend coupe, 03 TL,
89 civic hatch, 86 Integra, 02 CRV... and the list goes on
The CRV is nothing but plastic! There is not one soft touch panel in the car. Don't get me wrong I think it's a well-built quality CUV but it's not in the same league as the OB. The h interior in the OB reminds me of my 06 Accord. Perfect and well built. I can't say the same about the new Accord or Crosstour. Way too much copycat BMW that just doesn’t work. The bottom of the dash under the steering wheel sticks out to far so when you get in the car your knees can smack the dash. I guess it looks good but it performs badly. Form over function pretty much sums up Crosstour.
You know there are Subaru forums you can go to. Since you dislike all of the current Honda products. ;-)
We get it you like your OB. I think they are hideous. But you are seriously losing objectivity when you make statements like the backseats in the crosstour lack room as not a single customer has said that and you didn't even sit in them(your words)
The vehicle is selling in most markets. And many folks don't even know it exists yet. And since the CRV out sells the OB by a fairly wide margin you are in the minority there also. And you can't back the CVT up an incline of 15% or more nice touch Subie.
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