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kiwikungfu
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06 Civic sedan, best ice tire    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-04-2007 16:40
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My wife commutes in our 06 Civic EX sedan up a steep mountain grade which is frequently iced in the winter. Many times cars (and trucks and SUVs) spin their wheels climbing up, and if they slow down enough cars sometimes slide BACK down the hill. We have been using the stock all-season tires, will a non-studded winter tire grip ice well enough, or do we need a studded tire?

Which tire package do you recommend? I am ready to order today.
kiwikungfu
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Re: 06 Civic sedan, Blizzak vs Winterforce    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-04-2007 17:04
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I'm considering the Winterforce M+S tires at $55 each (205/55/15) or the Bridgestone Blizzak Revo 1 at $66 each(195/65/15).

The Winterforce can be studded, but there is no test data from tire rack to compare this tire to the Blizzak, and tire rack does not seem to have any studded tire test data (I guess it would tear up the ice rink they use for testing :)

If anyone has an educated opinion, please let me know.
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Re: 06 Civic sedan, Blizzak vs Winterforce    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-04-2007 17:45
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I bought the Revo's after reading two winter tire tests where it scored the highest. I'll post later about their difference from stock. Here in Denver we blizzards one week then hot dry pavement and 70 degrees the next week, so it will test the range of a snow tire's abillity. I never did find comparisons with studded tires and non, but studs wear the raods much faster- and given the afore mentioned mix of dry pavement and heavy snow I'll try a non-studded tire first.
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Re: 06 Civic sedan, Blizzak vs Winterforce    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-01-2008 18:31
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Here's some late validation for you:

"At the end of this test we learned that today's advanced tread compound and design technologies exceeded that of the traditional traction of studs on ice. Considering that only about six studs are in contact with the ice at any one time as the tire rolls across its surface, we found that the weak link is the ice itself, which chips away during contact with the studs. The ruts left on the surface of the ice showed that the studs were making contact, but the ice itself just wasn't strong enough to be considered a good traction partner for the tires.

Especially considering the unacceptable noise generated when studs contact dry and wet roads, we recommend using today's advanced tread compound and design technologies to drive through snow and on ice in winter."

WS-60 replaces REVO1, but my experience going from WS-50 to WS-60 suggests they're very similar on ice. I love the WS-60 on our Fit. I think they work at least as well as the WS-50, but they're quieter on dry pavement. I experienced some tramlining with WS-50s on that horrid stretch of I-70 just west of the KS/CO border, but I doubt WS-60s will have that problem.

How are the REVO1s working out? Those had to be the winter tire best buy this year.
 
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