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3stageD15B
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Fit Swap with R18    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-03-2007 12:11
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I am surprised that there is little information available about this swap. Is it possible? Practical? It just seems to me that this would be an ideal fun to drive, practical, reliable and affordable daily driver. The perfect car. With the Civic's underated 140hp engine inside the Fit's lightweight chassis (2400lb+), low 7-second 0-60 runs (not to mention gobs of midrange torque) would be obtainable, while also acheiving equivalent or better Civic EPA mileage figures (e.g., 30 mpg city/40mpg hwy). Is there any other car available right now that acheives this performance with equal or better fuel efficiency? Add to that the versatility of the hatchback design, 4-doors, and the wonderfully creative "magic seats" configurations - this is car that a family man or single hot-hatch racer would find easy to love. Is this not the perfect car? My impression is that the R18 is not much heavier than the L15, so less likely to be plagued by R20 swap issues (e.g., poor handling and balance due to weight issues). And because the R18 is pretty ubiquitous - it would be readily available and easily affordable. The Fit even appears to borrow the Civic's drivetrain! This swap seems like a pretty natural..er..um...match. Am I missing something here? Any thoughts?
Sasker
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Re: Fit Swap with R18    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-03-2007 13:33
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As you say more power in Fit would make it very interesting. Maybe Honda should offer such a version from the factory. It would be a "better Civic" than the current sedan or coupé (because of hatchback utility).
kiwikungfu
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Re: Fit Swap with R18    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-03-2007 14:25
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since there were already several k20 swaps into fits at this year's SEMA, an R18 should be possible (it's more compact than a k20). it does seem just about ideal, since the R18 weights less then the K20 and won't make a fit very nose heavy. however, i haven't heard of an r18 swap being done yet. If Haspot makes a mount kit and swap kit for the R18 into a fit, the swap will be very straight forward, so that kit will probably be the item to weight for.

R18's are also VERY INEXPENSIVE on ebay (~$1,500) or even new from Honda (~$3,000).

as an alternative, however, Jackson Racing's fit supercharger will bring your fit to 160hp, for just under $5,000. it has a very different torque curve versus the R18, but you don't have to weight for a swap kit- you can pre-order the supercharger now.
FNJ
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Re: Fit Swap with R18    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-03-2007 15:46
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I'd rather the R18 than the K20 for all those reasons you just mentioned, size weight, cost. I'm hoping that the next Fit will come with an R engine option, maybe for the Sport version.
3stageD15B
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Re: Fit Swap with R18    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-03-2007 16:23
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Whoops - I meant to say K20 (K series) rather than R20. It appears that the K20 is too heavy and upsets the balance of the Fit. The turbo option has appeal, however the compromise would include turbo lag, significantly reduced fuel economy, as well as turbo reliability/overall reliability concerns related to boost levels.
ryker
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Re: Fit Swap with R18    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-24-2009 07:50
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Don't neglect the r20 either. Same size but with more torque.

The main benifit of the R18 or r20 is the i-vtec in such a light car would allow it to operate in MPG mode with ease. Plus I love the gearing the auto trans r18 has. Longer gears make my little Civic a pleasure to drive and operate at low RPMs on the highway. In the lighter Fit it would be a blast to drive.

I would love to put a r20 into a first gen Insight. sub 2000lbs with 160hp.
 
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