I'm thinking about putting HID's on my accord (thinking about 600k or 8000k for the color temp)
now when I first started looking I saw the "xenon" bulbs that you just pop in, but after reading up I saw those are a total waste of money (basically a coated bulb to make it look sort of blueish..)
i then saw HID conversion kits that go for around 200-300 bucks that include 2 HID bulbs and 2 HID ballasts that need to be connected 9the install on these seem simple enough)
after reading some more i found that while getting this conversion kit will give you HID lights, the OEM headlight housing is not ment for them and light will be sprayed everywhere in an unfocused beam (and at other drivers, blinding them)
has anyone done an HID light conversion on an 06 accord (I have a I4 manual sedan, although I would think it would be the same regardless)
how much did you spend? are you happy with it? would you do something else differently?
What you have read is totally true. The HID kits usually go for about $1000 unless they have dropped in recent months. The housing units were not made to handle that type of light. If you want to get stopped by the police or potentially cause an accident which you can be held liable for even if you were not involved, then I’d stay away from converting it.
the best way to do this is to retrofit hid projectors from a different car into the headlight housing of the Accord. Here is an address to another forum:
from what I'm seeing on this is simply how to put projectors from another car 9BMW, lexus, etc.) into your existing accord housing. can't you just buy a housing for the accord that has this installed already? then just worry about converting the bulb socket to HID?
I have installed Eurolite HID kits on both Civics and Accords. They work great, although the light is a bit bluish for my taste. I have no idea what brightness they are, but perhaps a different K number would be better. If they are aimed correctly, they don't blind any more than regular headlights would. You won't get pulled over.
As far as them not being projectors, not all HID systems have projector lenses (the previous gen TL being one of them), and not all projectors have HID bulbs. Projectors do tend to have a more focused beam regardless of the type of light bulb (incandescent or HID).
Bollocks, I am interested in putting an HID kit in my car as well. I had the same concern about glare, and am wondering do you by chance have pictures of the lights at night, or pictures of the beam pattern?
Did you aim your headlights lower after installing the HIDs?
Drnick wrote: after reading some more i found that while getting this conversion kit will give you HID lights, the OEM headlight housing is not ment for them and light will be sprayed everywhere in an unfocused beam (and at other drivers, blinding them)
i had read the same thing and it is NOT TRUE. i put a set of xenondepot hids on my gf's 06 accord and the light output is AWESOME. if you aim them properly after the install then there will not be a problem. they put out better/ brighter- more spread out light than my 04 TL.
you do not need a projector conversion
as a side note- i'm not to sure how i feel about xenoindepot right now... the balast on the right side is starting to go for the second time, this also happened on my old rsx with the xenondepot hids i installed...
the light output behind the wheel, I'm sure IS awesome.. I'm concerned about glare, mainly for on comming drivers. I don't want to be one of those A-holes who drive down the street and blind you with their lights because they arn't focused enough.
I know you don't NEED projectors (there are plenty of HID systems that come on cars that don't have projectors. but there are different housing that are made for HID lights vs normal style lights. (from what I've read, they reflect differently)
do you have any pics of your install? i'm curious of how it looked
as I mentioned, if you adjust the lights after the install... THERE IS NO GLARE… I have driven in front of the car and have observed it head on… there is NO difference from this hid housing setup from any other oem hid setup on the road.
When I first installed them I didn’t adjust them quite right and I got flashed 3 times when I went out on a drive. I re-adjusted and I have not been flashed once in 4 months since the install.
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The conversion has no affect on the high beams, they are two separate bulbs…
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this is done all the time, its really not as big a deal as the other boards hake it out to be... honda dealerships around here routinely add hid kits to their accords...
If anyone has pics of their aftermarket HID install, I'd be curious to see them as well!
Right now when I pull up to a wall wth the standard halogen headlights in my Accord, I see the defined vertical cutoffs of the beam pattern. Would HIDs be a lot more focused in the center and less on the side and would the vertical cutoff points be "blurred?"
Wow, pezones... where you located? I wish the Honda dealerships around here would be willing to install aftermarket HIDs.
well I guess I could always get the retrofit kit, and if theres a problem change out the housing. how long did it take you to install them (from what I've seen, it's a fairly simple process or wiring in the ballist and switching out the bulbs) how mcuh adjusting did you do?
how does the "top line" of light look when against a wall or a garage.
how does this effect the daytime running lights? I know the highbeams are a completly different bulb so thsoe don't matter, but are the DRL's using the low beam bulb? or the high beam?
I have the same questions as you... how much did it have to be adjusted, and what's the "top line" vertical cut off look like? Anyone know?
I heard switching bulbs on an accord is a pain in the arse cause you have to remove the battery or something?
As far as I know, DRLs and low beam headlights are separate, so it would not be affected.
If you're going to change out the housing from the OEM one now to a projector one, you may need to change the HID bulb when you do that. D2R bulbs are for reflector housings, and D2S bulbs are for projectors.
I am using HID on my I4 2005 Accord.Love them and sure is a lot safer if you aim them slightly lower.Though its not the projector type,its still "reasonably" good.Remember,different HID bulbs have different focal point for its bulbs so no two bulb from different brands will give you the same light pattern.I must say the light pattern cutoff is not as great as OEM halogen due to focal pont.
All the same,try 6000k but never above 7000k as it is too bluish.I am using 7000k now.Somehow I notice the OEM HID are always less "white" and less irritating on the eyes.Until Accord make OEM HID( only V6 in Asia) and recently I4 too(Singapore) I still love to add them on.Good luck.
this is what you need to know before you atemp to upgrade to h.i.d,
1 make a stlyle of the hid bulb.
2 color temp.
3 state law. (USUALLY RULE OF REASONING IS WHAT DOES NOT COME WITH THE CAR FROM THE FACTORY IS CONSIDERED ILLEGAL)
i currently have a pair of hid lamps on my 06 accord. they are 6000k. i had a set of 8000k before until i encoutered a small problem. the problem was as you go higher in kelvin temp. the less light you get, this is specially noticeable during rainy nights. so if it rains a whole lot where you live, stay with in 4300k- 6000k, anything higher you will need fog lamps just to be able to see the wet road. and for those who wonder why that happens here is why:
the hid lightwave is shorter and more compact, thats why you notice the so call sharp light cut off, proyectors decrease the lightwave even more making the cutoff more noticeable. when you apply this type of light on a wet black surface, a mirror effect is created, instead of the light patern luminating the front of the vehicle it gets refracted away from the road. when you get a chance look at a car with hid lamps on a rainy night head on and your going to see all the light thats bounce off the road.
but behind the wheel it looks like the lamps are dim, but they are not. this is the reason why most car manufactures use the proyetors and self leveling devices for this type of lighting. and normally you get fog lamps with hid packages.
now that being said.
for the 06 accord the bulb replacement is fairly easy. on the driver side all you need to do is move the intake plastic trim behind the headlamp, its just 2 pieces of platic held by plastic pins. the passenger side is even easier is just twist and pull.
things you need to now about 06 accord headlamps:
if you have notice the accord uses parabolic halogen lamps.
the light is reflecte from the back of the bulb to the reflecting element in the housing thus giving you a wide angle light patern. this system uses all the light eficiently from the halogen quartz bulb.(this is the main problem with hid conversios)
if you havent notice all ready the accord in stock form,the passenger side headamp beam seems lower than the driver side. again there is a purpose for this feature.( this is important when re-adjusting lamps after conversion) the headlights for the US market accord has a 1.3% angle. what this means is there is no horizontal adjustment. there are preset from the the factory to iluminate more toward right side of the road. this help reduce oncoming driver glare and allows the light beam pattern to shine better on most street and hwy road signs, since most of them are on the right side road. there is adjustment for vertical beam paterns.
its a
#10mm bolt behind the housing.
to raise the light rotate clockwise
to lower the light rotate counterclockwise
you can purchase a kit that plugs right to your factory hardness. the only work you have to do is to find a suitable location for the ballasts.
like i mention before the housing is designed for halogen output.
being that the hid kits produce a whole lot more light, the housing wont be able to handle the aditional light output so you need to rea-aline the headlamps.
the best thing you can do is mark the adjustment bolt so you have a reference. i would use write-out( its easies to see at night-while adjusting,) remember is going to be dark in there, use a flashligth to look thru the adjustment whole ( its to the left of the driverside headlamp and the right of the passenger side headlamp its about an inch wide there is going to be world "adjust" embeded on the plastic cover) while turning the bolt. THIS IS IMPORTANT the writeout mark will tell you when you have done a full rotation, write down the amount of rotations and the direction of the rotation. keep this notes in a secure place your going to need it to restore the lamp to stock height. REMEMBER NOT EVERY HID CAPSULE THE SAME. DEPENDING ON THE MAKE AND BASE OF THE CAPSULE. YOU WANT THE LONG STICK ALONG SIDE ON THE CAPSULE TO FACE DOWN!!! IF YOU BUY HID KIT WITH A 9006 STYLE BASE(WHAT I MEAN IS: IT WILL LOOK LIKE A 9006 WITH THE 90* ANGLE DOWN I HAVE PICS OF THE HID CAPSULE IF YOU NEED TO SEE IT). AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM. IT WILL FIT RIGHT IN AND THE CAPSULE STICK WILL FACE DOWN.
IF YOU DONT HAVE THAT TYPE OF CAPSULE YOU NEED TO LOWER THE LAMPs 1 FULL ROTATION.
legal or illega
that depends on who you ask the type of law enforcement in your area. personally if your lights are not blinding other drivers you can prety much get away with it.
but remember blue lights are only for emergeny vehicles, most of the time its up to te cops discresion to enforce this
what you are describing is basically a way to use your stock headlight housing with an HID light... by aiming the lights lower it all it does is lower the glade (and also the light angle). I looked at HId's for a while... and was dead set on getting them, after reading everything I can about them, the only REALLY way to do ti is to retrofit projectors into your stock housing or buy a new housing with projectors in them, this is the only true way to do HID without blinding other drives and getting all the hid light into the right spot.
the best "compromise" I've seen is going the HIR light route. these lights burn at a higher color temp than a normal halogen, but will work perfectly with your standard housing and NOT blind on comming drivers. plus these lights have 3x the light output of your normal lights. if you do a search for HIR lights on google you can find all the info you need. these will simply plug in your existing bulb socket (you need a to make a SLIGHT modification to the bulb itself, a small trim with a pair of toe nail clippers is all it takes) and the fit right in. also they are only 20-30 dollars per bulb, which is much cheaper than HID's, and a lot easier to install and also use less power. this is the route I'm going to take, I'd suggest more people at least look at this alternative before going for HID's
thanks for the info in regards of the hir bulbs.
i am looking in to this bulbs,
i have to honestly said that most people that get hids are only looking for the color not so much actual function. i am farsighted, so need all the light i can utilize at night. i was considering a retrofit from an audi or a tsx lamp since the dimensions of the proyectors are prety much the same. but it was not cost efective. Another consideration that i am contemplating is to purchase an aftermarket proyector headlamps. ( iam not sure what they go for a 06 accord ) and just buy the hid h1 capsules a set of hid capsules run for about $75 a pair. thank you for the HIR information this may be a more efficient way to go. if i find anything useful i will post it . thank you
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