So I was just driving aroung in 3rd gear in the Si today. I reach for the shifter without hitting the clutch and it pops almost easy as pie from an engaged gear to the neutral gear without pressing it at all. I then disocovered it would do it in each gear. Now most of my cars you cannot simply do that too, esp the new ones.. So is the SI tranny that well done that it can pop into neutral from any speed without pressing the clutch, or is it just mine indicationg I need them to check the gearbox. Thanks in advance!
What I was meaning is there is no block to allow it to go from gear to neutral without the clutch pressed. Because say I am going down the road 3rd gear 45mph I can keep my foot on the gas and push slightly back on the stick and pop into neutral. In most manuals it takes some effort without the clutch or some will not come out of gear. Now I cannot get it back into gear while not pressing the clutch of course, just making sure these engines with these gearboxes were built that way. So that the shifter can be put into neutral from any gear/engine speed without any real effort or pull just like if you were hitting the clutch.
After reading your post my si clutch is normal after all. It does exactly what you just described. Like what the others have said I can put it in certain gears without stepping on the clutch. I was merging into lane and realizing my navi told me not to cause i'm about to go into an unknown highway i shifted to 2nd to pick up speed and beat a few cars so I can merge back then realizing I didn't even clutch it.
yeah Jinzo mine will not go into gear really at low rpms but then again I wasnt jamming on it to try and get it into gear.. But it certainly comes out of gear to neutral without a clutch just fine.. I found out because I had to quickly downshift to avoid a car that pulled out infront of my path and I needed more power, I guess my hand beat my feet to the punch because I had shifted to neutral before hitting the clutch to gear it down.. So after ya know the whole "what in the hell were they thinking" I started thinking about the neutral and tried it again. Low and behold pop right and easy out of gear without the clutch, ok so I tried to stick it back into gear real easy at under 5k rpms and it locked out so I did not force it to grind or anything.. Although given the characteristics so far I would not say that up at the higher rpms you could easily shift without the clutch if you needed with this car's syncro setup..
Won't any manual transmission exit a gear without depressing the clutch? Going into gear without is tricky, but certainly not impossible - it just depends on how much harm you're willing to cause and how lucky you are.
every manual transmission honda i have ever driven will come out of gear without the clutch, as long as your foot isn't completely off the gas pedal or have the gas pedal fully depressed. In fact, I don't depress the clutch untill I start to move the shifter out of the gear it is in. My daily driver is a 93 civic ex 5 speed beater. I find shifts are not only smoother this way, but quicker as well.
If you give it full throttle it won't come out of gear, If you give it NO throttle it won't come out of gear. There just seems to be a window or engine speed and throttle input where it comes out easily. I am no mechanic, so I can't explain it any other way.
bottom line is, it is completely normal, unless it comes out of gear without you moving the shifter :)
anyone else shift like i have described.....i would imagine most
NDS wrote: Won't any manual transmission exit a gear without depressing the clutch? Going into gear without is tricky, but certainly not impossible - it just depends on how much harm you're willing to cause and how lucky you are.
I'm pretty sure NDS is right on the money here.
My old Type-S would, my Accord would, and my Si can be carefully taken out of gear without using the clutch
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