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http://www.insideline.com/ford/fusion/2013/2013-ford-fusion-full-test.html
"questionable fuel economy" Edmunds observed 22.1mpg.
* 0-60mph 6.9s (slower than the accord V6)
* base price 32,995 usd
* 3,736lbs as tested (about 200lbs heavier than Accord v6)
* EPA 22 city/31 highway/25 combined (lesser than the V6 accord).
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This review doesnt even sound like the typical Edmunds review and this is my favorite part:
"Part of the credit goes to the new 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine. It's now the most powerful engine in the lineup and it stomps out 237 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 270 pound-feet of torque at a low 3,000 rpm on 87 octane fuel. Compare this to the V6 in Honda's Accord — probably the best big engine in the segment — and the Ford's liveliness begins to make some sense. The 3.5-liter Honda mill needs 1,900 more revs to deliver 18 fewer lb-ft of torque. Advantage: turbo engine."
Ok, the Ecoboost offers more peak torque and offers that torque at a lower RPM yet the Accord V6 kills it in acceleration and real world efficiency yet Edmunds gave the "advantage" to the Fusion! Wow!
Then there was an issue with MFT of which seems to be a reuccuring issue overall and Edmunds admitted that yet that didnt have a big impact on the review. Hello Edmunds, MFT controls just about everything in the car yet and in my eyes that should be a HUGE impact on this review yet it wasn't!
~Patrick
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I've generally been a big fan of Ford's new direction over the last 5 years, but the new Fusion seems to encapsulate all the things they are doing wrong:
1. Still has the infernal and non-functional MyTouch system.
2. Despite having only a 4cyl engine, the AWD model is super heavy.
3. Despite being one of (the?) biggest cars in the class externally, the interior room is not particularly impressive.
4. Speaking of that 4cyl turbo engine, where are the benefits? Slower, unrefined and with worse fuel economy than a car like the Accord
SC
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Hondarulez
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Regarding the real world mpg, the key thing is that Edmunds "recorded 22.1 mpg over 432 miles spent largely on the highway."
That makes me wonder what sort of mileage the car would get with more city driving? I'd like to see a family sedan comparison test from them soon!
It's also surprising that the Fusion does not have any advantage over the Accord V6 in EPA ratings at all.
Looking at the performance numbers, a well-driven Accord I4 6MT will be able to keep up with the top of the line Fusion!
Considering the Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited with a larger 2.5L 4 cyl engine with automatic and AWD is about 3400lb, it's surprising the Fusion AWD with similar exterior dimensions is 300lb heavier.
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My recent test drive of the new Ford Fusion was a huge disappointment. The finger pinching buttons, too small, close together and numerous and distracting to use while operating the vehicle look like Ford's failed answer to an even more complex MYFORD system. The loaded "entry level" 2013 Honda Accord LX is Acura/Infiniti/Lexus-Like, while the '13 Fusion S with its cheap plastic wheels, paper thin seats and horrific blind spots and poor rear headroom were shocking for a car that was expected to leapfrog the competition. Moving into a Titanium edition with AWD provided slightly better handling, a more robust engine and leather-clad (still paper thin) seats and many of the base sedan's shortcomings... but at over $40,000 with every option and a host of accessories proved more than horrifying. For the price of an Audi A4, FMC has got to be kidding. The article? Either the author works for Ford Motor Company or has never driven the array of 2013 Honda Accords. By the way, I am a Honda enthusiast that happens to love many Ford products, but the '13 Fusion is very disappointing. Just read the comparison tests in Motor Trend and Car&Driver or better yet, take them out on the road for yourself. Do not take my word for it. I really do urge you to do the research.
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dj
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Seems Ford has a real looker but both the 2013 V6 Accord/Altima outperform the 2.0 Ecoboost. I think that they(Ford) might want to turn up the wick so they can be more competitive. Even in direct comparisons to the Hyundai/Kia 2.0T's Ford comes up short on power/performance and economy. Maybe it can compete with the Chevy Malibu 2.0T...
Good Luck Ford...beauty is only skin deep!
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Hondarulez
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dj wrote:
Seems Ford has a real looker but both the 2013 V6 Accord/Altima outperform the 2.0 Ecoboost. I think that they(Ford) might want to turn up the wick so they can be more competitive. Even in direct comparisons to the Hyundai/Kia 2.0T's Ford comes up short on power/performance and economy. Maybe it can compete with the Chevy Malibu 2.0T...
Good Luck Ford...beauty is only skin deep!
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It's easy to dial the boost up for the 2.0 Ecoboost engine, and I'm sure the engine can handle the extra stress. However, at this moment, they will need at least another 40hp to catch up with the competition. With 280hp though, turbo lag could become an issue.
I think Ford should consider adding a variant of the 3.5L ecoboost engine to the Fusion range. Then again, with a larger, heavier V6 in front, the handling advantage might be affected.
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owequitit
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Hondarulez wrote:
dj wrote:
Seems Ford has a real looker but both the 2013 V6 Accord/Altima outperform the 2.0 Ecoboost. I think that they(Ford) might want to turn up the wick so they can be more competitive. Even in direct comparisons to the Hyundai/Kia 2.0T's Ford comes up short on power/performance and economy. Maybe it can compete with the Chevy Malibu 2.0T...
Good Luck Ford...beauty is only skin deep!
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It's easy to dial the boost up for the 2.0 Ecoboost engine, and I'm sure the engine can handle the extra stress. However, at this moment, they will need at least another 40hp to catch up with the competition. With 280hp though, turbo lag could become an issue.
I think Ford should consider adding a variant of the 3.5L ecoboost engine to the Fusion range. Then again, with a larger, heavier V6 in front, the handling advantage might be affected.
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Time to use many of TOV's member logic against them.
1) The majority Fusion buyer doesn't care about performance. If they do, they aren't going to add it with a chip and a tune, and all of the other stuff that goes into building a super boosted Ford Fusion.
More than likely, they would just either accept the lower power because they are a die-hard Ford fan, or wouldn't care. The rest are more likely to buy a car that comes with the power stock, like the Altima or Accord. When you consider the other tradeoffs of the Fusion to get the looks, that becomes even more likely.
2) The 3.5 ECOBOOST would be overkill. Nobody needs a "boy racer" Fusion, and it would kill Ford's CAFE score!
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mobis21
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owequitit wrote:
Hondarulez wrote:
dj wrote:
Seems Ford has a real looker but both the 2013 V6 Accord/Altima outperform the 2.0 Ecoboost. I think that they(Ford) might want to turn up the wick so they can be more competitive. Even in direct comparisons to the Hyundai/Kia 2.0T's Ford comes up short on power/performance and economy. Maybe it can compete with the Chevy Malibu 2.0T...
Good Luck Ford...beauty is only skin deep!
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It's easy to dial the boost up for the 2.0 Ecoboost engine, and I'm sure the engine can handle the extra stress. However, at this moment, they will need at least another 40hp to catch up with the competition. With 280hp though, turbo lag could become an issue.
I think Ford should consider adding a variant of the 3.5L ecoboost engine to the Fusion range. Then again, with a larger, heavier V6 in front, the handling advantage might be affected.
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Time to use many of TOV's member logic against them.
1) The majority Fusion buyer doesn't care about performance. If they do, they aren't going to add it with a chip and a tune, and all of the other stuff that goes into building a super boosted Ford Fusion.
More than likely, they would just either accept the lower power because they are a die-hard Ford fan, or wouldn't care. The rest are more likely to buy a car that comes with the power stock, like the Altima or Accord. When you consider the other tradeoffs of the Fusion to get the looks, that becomes even more likely.
2) The 3.5 ECOBOOST would be overkill. Nobody needs a "boy racer" Fusion, and it would kill Ford's CAFE score!
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You forgot one, the majority of Fusion buyers are rental car companies.
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Hondarulez
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Darn if this is fb I would "like" your post!
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