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http://www.insideline.com/ford/focus/2012/stick-shifts-increase-in-popularity.html
Seven percent of new cars sold this year have manual transmissions, a significant increase from a rate of 3.9 percent in 2011.
This year may see the highest rate of manual vehicle purchases since 2006.
Come on Honda, join in?
So which current Honda would get your vote for most in need of a manual option?
My vote CRV?
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JP
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I would got for changing all the 5MT to 6MT :)
CRV would be gr8 as well!
What about crosstour?
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Ultima
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Well there you go, make 'em available and people will buy it given the chance. I would travel across the country to get a manual in a car I want, but most people wont do that and have to get what's available.
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rationull
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Honda: CRV. Not enough vehicles this size without an MT.
But company wide, I'd say the TSX wagon. Offering a wagon with sporty pretensions with no MT option is absurd IMO.
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A77
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definitely CRV.
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IntegraDC5R
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My vote, every damn car they make should have the option to use your left hand, well right there and 3 pedals at your feet.
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Inebriated Snake
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Purchasing manuals require quite a bit of patience.
When I bought my 2012 Focus no dealers any well equiped manuals on the lot, and even the manditory stippers models were about 3 or 4 per 50 mi radius. And they were only sedans (I wanted a hatch).
I had to factory order what I wanted, then wait two months for it to arrive. The trade-in was a little tough, as I couldn't leave the Civic on the spot since I still needed it to get around.
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DrWhiner
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Who said Edmunds' data is pretty bad and don't have a very good data collection effort ?
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FiSH-Chan
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IntegraDC5R wrote:
My vote, every damn car they make should have the option to use your left hand, well right there and 3 pedals at your feet.
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Then every damn car should have a manual as good as Honda's, not just having manual for sake of it but done poorly..
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IntegraDC5R
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FiSH-Chan wrote:
IntegraDC5R wrote:
My vote, every damn car they make should have the option to use your left hand, well right there and 3 pedals at your feet.
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Then every damn car should have a manual as good as Honda's, not just having manual for sake of it but done poorly..
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I was referring to Honda, I don't care about other brands of vehicle and what they offer to the masses. :)
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FiSH-Chan
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IntegraDC5R wrote:
I was referring to Honda |
Aaah,, in that case, then I want to add in every damn car from Honda should have a 6 speed manual option :))
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tgo63
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I have three kids and since all our vehicles are manual transmissions all had to learn how to drive them! My 15 years old daughter started driving my 2007 accord standard recently and does very well. Yesterday she did two 30 miles trips in moderate traffic. She admitted, after initial reservations, that manual are way more fun than auto she is driving during her driving school classes
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danielgr
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tgo63 wrote:
I have three kids and since all our vehicles are manual transmissions all had to learn how to drive them! My 15 years old daughter started driving my 2007 accord standard recently and does very well. Yesterday she did two 30 miles trips in moderate traffic. She admitted, after initial reservations, that manual are way more fun than auto she is driving during her driving school classes
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• in Europe you can't get your permit on an automatic car (at least in western Europe)
• in Japan if you get your permit using an automatic car it'll be restricted to driving AT cars. Obviously getting the one for MT cars allows you driving anything.
Is it different in the USA?
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mobis21
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98EX4cyl wrote:
http://www.insideline.com/ford/focus/2012/stick-shifts-increase-in-popularity.html
Seven percent of new cars sold this year have manual transmissions, a significant increase from a rate of 3.9 percent in 2011.
This year may see the highest rate of manual vehicle purchases since 2006.
Come on Honda, join in?
So which current Honda would get your vote for most in need of a manual option?
My vote CRV?
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A Ridgeline Sport with 6-speed manual.
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loveturtle
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danielgr wrote:
Sorry about going off-topic but found your message interesting. Can you in the US get your driving permit on an automatic car and then legally drive manual ones? I'm asking because:
• in Europe you can't get your permit on an automatic car (at least in western Europe)
• in Japan if you get your permit using an automatic car it'll be restricted to driving AT cars. Obviously getting the one for MT cars allows you driving anything.
Is it different in the USA?
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Yes, in the US you can get your license with an automatic and then buy a standard and drive it around any time you want.
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CanTex
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danielgr wrote:
tgo63 wrote:
I have three kids and since all our vehicles are manual transmissions all had to learn how to drive them! My 15 years old daughter started driving my 2007 accord standard recently and does very well. Yesterday she did two 30 miles trips in moderate traffic. She admitted, after initial reservations, that manual are way more fun than auto she is driving during her driving school classes
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• in Europe you can't get your permit on an automatic car (at least in western Europe)
• in Japan if you get your permit using an automatic car it'll be restricted to driving AT cars. Obviously getting the one for MT cars allows you driving anything.
Is it different in the USA?
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Not sure how they're doing it now, but the driving schools used to be able to certify you, at least in Texas in the late '90s, instead of a State examiner. My son told me about having to make an immediate right turn into heavy traffic with no other driving school experience. It's a good thing dear old Dad taught him the basics in the mall parking lot first. Oh, and for my older son, the instructor fell asleep often.
Yes, get your license with an automatic, drive a stick, no problem. My older son took over my '94 Accord stick at age 19 (licensed 3 years at that point) and loved it, but to get leather and a coupe model on his '00 Accord (these college grads figure they gotta have it all right now), auto was all they had. He misses a stick, but with kids and a manual-phobic wife now, auto it is. Even his 328i is auto because the wife has to drive it as needed. Sigh.
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CanTex
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And in my case, after having had at least 8 stick-shift cars (I'd have to recount), the left hip has worn out from driving a manual in heavy traffic for years, so I'm doomed to automatics from now on. I have heard two separate stories of gentlemen in their '60s who wanted manuals (Mustang and Camaro, I think) but the salesmen basically said, um, how long to you intend to keep the car, and how old will you be at that time? Dang! Auto it was for them. Hips do wear out, sad to say.
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GoFaster
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Nothing as fun as a small car with a manual. Shift, shift, shift, shift...just trying to keep the engine in the optimal RPM range. I have never driven a FIT, but I would imagine with a manual it must be a fun drive.
If you never owned a manual, you should buy one, they are a hoot.
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BLK
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Hands down for me, a manual needed in the TSX Sport Wagon.
'Sport' and AT only do not go together.
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Trip
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danielgr wrote:
Sorry about going off-topic but found your message interesting. Can you in the US get your driving permit on an automatic car and then legally drive manual ones? I'm asking because:
• in Europe you can't get your permit on an automatic car (at least in western Europe)
• in Japan if you get your permit using an automatic car it'll be restricted to driving AT cars. Obviously getting the one for MT cars allows you driving anything.
Is it different in the USA?
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Unfortunately driver education and training in the US is a joke. Driver training is not required and many schools have long since dropped driver's Ed classes. Most states do have restrictions around "junior" licensing and permits (must have a license driver with you, curfew, etc..). But the test itself could be a written (computer) review of laws and signs along with a "road" test. The "road" test could be a parking lot sized affair where the driver demonstrates a 3 point turn, backing the car in reverse, etc... An Actual "road" test doesn't seem to be very common.
To answer your question, demonstration of driving a manual transmission is not required. What is really disconcerting, is that a 16 year old can take their exam test in the family's 1994 Del Sol but then go home and get the keys to Daddy's Porsche or Mommy's 4 ton Cadillac Escalade. And unfortunately, the news is peppered all too often with the results of these parent's bad decisions.
Last edited by danielgr on 08-06-2012 10:53
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Trip
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danielgr wrote:
Sorry about going off-topic but found your message interesting. Can you in the US get your driving permit on an automatic car and then legally drive manual ones? I'm asking because:
• in Europe you can't get your permit on an automatic car (at least in western Europe)
• in Japan if you get your permit using an automatic car it'll be restricted to driving AT cars. Obviously getting the one for MT cars allows you driving anything.
Is it different in the USA?
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Unfortunately driver education and training in the US is a joke. Driver training is not required and many schools have long since dropped driver's Ed classes. Most states do have restrictions around "junior" licensing and permits (must have a licensed driver with you until the age of 18, curfew, etc..). But the test itself could be a written (computer) review of laws and signs along with a "road" test. The "road" test could be a parking lot sized affair where the driver demonstrates a 3 point turn, backing the car in reverse, etc... An Actual "road" test doesn't seem to be very common.
To answer your question, demonstration of driving a manual transmission is not required. What is really disconcerting, is that a 16 year old can take their exam test in the family's 1994 Del Sol but then go home and get the keys to Daddy's Porsche or Mommy's 4 ton Cadillac Escalade.
(Sorry about the other post. Horked up a tag....)
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danielgr
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loveturtle, CanTex, and Trip, thanks for the quick answer.
It's funny how different driving permit regulations are among those three markets; it also certainly speaks a lot about people relation with cars in the three of them.
Last edited by danielgr on 08-06-2012 10:57
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VTEC_Inside
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Trip wrote:
danielgr wrote:
Sorry about going off-topic but found your message interesting. Can you in the US get your driving permit on an automatic car and then legally drive manual ones? I'm asking because:
• in Europe you can't get your permit on an automatic car (at least in western Europe)
• in Japan if you get your permit using an automatic car it'll be restricted to driving AT cars. Obviously getting the one for MT cars allows you driving anything.
Is it different in the USA?
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Unfortunately driver education and training in the US is a joke. Driver training is not required and many schools have long since dropped driver's Ed classes. Most states do have restrictions around "junior" licensing and permits (must have a license driver with you, curfew, etc..). But the test itself could be a written (computer) review of laws and signs along with a "road" test. The "road" test could be a parking lot sized affair where the driver demonstrates a 3 point turn, backing the car in reverse, etc... An Actual "road" test doesn't seem to be very common.
To answer your question, demonstration of driving a manual transmission is not required. What is really disconcerting, is that a 16 year old can take their exam test in the family's 1994 Del Sol but then go home and get the keys to Daddy's Porsche or Mommy's 4 ton Cadillac Escalade. And unfortunately, the news is peppered all too often with the results of these parent's bad decisions.
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Here in Ontario you have to do 2 road tests to get to your full G license, and believe me, it doesn't help much.
FWIW, I did my 1st test in my driving instructors auto Jetta, and my final in my moms 5spd Sunbird.
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BLK
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Trip wrote:
Unfortunately driver education and training in the US is a joke.
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Amen to that.
Scandinavian-like driver training would be a dream.
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TonyEX
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98EX4cyl wrote:
http://www.insideline.com/ford/focus/2012/stick-shifts-increase-in-popularity.html
Seven percent of new cars sold this year have manual transmissions, a significant increase from a rate of 3.9 percent in 2011.
This year may see the highest rate of manual vehicle purchases since 2006.
Come on Honda, join in?
So which current Honda would get your vote for most in need of a manual option?
My vote CRV?
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TSX Wagon with MT6 and LSD.
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