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HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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Actually the Sentra doesn't have actual push button start, they've got the old Intellikey System that previous Nissan started using on the previous generation Maximas and previous Gen G35 that has all the functions of a proximity key (pushing the button on the door to open it) but you still have to turn the ignition switch with your hand.
The Altima has had push button start since MY 2007, its standard equipment. For My2013 every trim level except the base 2.5 and the 2.5S has remote engine start standard. Nissan now gives you push button start AND remote engine start on about 80 percent of the models that will be available.
I think we'll see push button start on EX-L and up...would be nice to see it on EX, but if EX-L and up don't have it, I'll be surprised.
EVERY competitor has it available...from the Passat, Altima (standard), Camry (SE, XLE, Hybrid), Mazda6 (GT trims), Malibu (LTZ), Optima (EX and SX), Sonata (SE and Limited), Fusion (Titanium)
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HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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Honda needs HIDs and a push button?
HIDs have their advantages yes (larger, more robust light discharge), but they're more expensive, and are more prone to glare. It would certainly be nice if the Accord came with HIDs, I've never had a problem with its traditional lighting system, and I don't think I would now.
And I honestly don't understand the push button. The Altima came with a push button in 2007. And the S2000 came with a push button as well. And no one complained about the 8th gen's lack of push button.
But now, seeing as the Sentra has it, the Accord's lack of push button start shows inferiority?
Idk man. People have told me off about my ignorance on the push button and proximity keys, but honesty, they don't seem all that more convenient than regular keys. Plus they seem to be more problem prone than keys. I'd rather have something that is fail-safe over something that is convenient.
And again, Idk. As the midsize segment gets hotter, trinkets such as HIDs and buttons are are becoming deal-breakers.
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no love for em n-gga breaking hearts...
...no keys;
PUSH TO START!
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Powered by Honda wrote:
no love for em n-gga breaking hearts...
...no keys;
PUSH TO START!
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.....Black and yellow, black and yellow,black and yellow.
Seriously, for those out there trying to excuse Honda for not including an item that becoming more availible in competitors cars is pathetic. Unless you have lived with it, not try it, not 'oh my my rental car had it',but lived with it, there is no going back.
And if keyless entry/push start is so bad, so expensive, so inconvenient (really????)then somebody better send Acura an email and tell them to stop offering it.
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longhorn wrote:
Powered by Honda wrote:
no love for em n-gga breaking hearts...
...no keys;
PUSH TO START!
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.....Black and yellow, black and yellow,black and yellow.
Seriously, for those out there trying to excuse Honda for not including an item that becoming more availible in competitors cars is pathetic. Unless you have lived with it, not try it, not 'oh my my rental car had it',but lived with it, there is no going back.
And if keyless entry/push start is so bad, so expensive, so inconvenient (really????)then somebody better send Acura an email and tell them to stop offering it.
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ever think some people like the key and the simple form factor of insert and turn. I've lived with it for a week in 335d. mehhh I could go forever without it.
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Powered by Honda wrote:
TurkMan71 wrote:
Powered by Honda wrote:
I dont give 2 shits about the gay button.
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GAY BUTTON?!?! hahaha - does that mean it's attracted to other buttons??
....idiotic
Happy Gay Pride!!!
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haha the meaning of the word gay does not mean what it used to. Its constantly evolving.
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Nice excuse...if you're 12.
If you aren't, then it's a bad excuse.
This website is visited by young people as well...some may not understand how that word is 'evolving', even worse some may be questioning their own sexuality, do they need to be attacked, even unintentionally, out of the blue? Be more responsible with your words please.
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dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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Xenon gas, HID headlamps shine a better light on the roadway. From a driver's perspective, they are 123% (made up number) better than conventional, halogen headlamps. They simply illuminate the road better.
As someone else said a few responses up, everyone else in the class offers these features; it's time for the Accord to get on board.
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I love HID headlights. I had them on my 09 TSX and I have them on my 13 RDX. They illuminate the road and surroundings - especially reflective road signs - far better than conventional bulbs. They do have a sharp upper cut off though, which in some circumstances reduces visibility.
The pushbutton start in the RDX is a feature I could live without. After more than 25 years of driving with a conventional key, I still find myself reaching for the steering column to turn off the vehicle. I guess I will get used to that over time. The proximity sensor is really nice though for opening the doors.
By the way, if the battery in the keyless fob is dead, you cannot start the vehicle.
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Bafflegas wrote:
By the way, if the battery in the keyless fob is dead, you cannot start the vehicle.
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Really? Interesting. I know the TL, RL have fail-safe systems (or redundant systems) for starting the car if the key fob fails. I'd check the owner's manual. There should be a slot to insert the fob if its battery is dead, or maybe holding the fob up against the start/stop button will allow the vehicle to be started.
It's worth a try.
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by the way - I can't believe one of the seeming most pressing topics regarding the new Accord is whether it has keyless-access/push button start. LOL
just a thought
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according2kev wrote:
Gfn8r wrote:
according2kev wrote:
I reduced the size and added a couple of arrows to point it out.
Again, it could just be the camo/lighting combo but it just seems ironic that there would be a black dot in the white portion on the door handle.
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OK..thought that might have been the normal keyhole--good eye!
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I thought it might have been a key hole too, but compared to the hybrid the key hole seems to be positioned more to the right on the stationary part of the door handle.
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If I remember, Honda promised keyless-entry and ignition on the 2013 CrossTour, and we know that Honda brought the feature matrix of both vehicles in-line with each other with the 8th-Gen MMC (memory seats in the EXL-V6s, backup camera in the EX-L NAVI sedans). So for the skeptics, I think it's coming (and the pics, including the obvious ones of the hybrid, bear this out).
As to these pics, who knows what that is, especially since it isn't clear what trim level this prototype is! With that zerbra camo, it's hard to tell where the door-handle begins and ends!
My bet is that EX-Ls and above get the keyless (and maybe all V6 models).
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Bafflegas wrote:
I love HID headlights. I had them on my 09 TSX and I have them on my 13 RDX. They illuminate the road and surroundings - especially reflective road signs - far better than conventional bulbs. They do have a sharp upper cut off though, which in some circumstances reduces visibility.
The pushbutton start in the RDX is a feature I could live without. After more than 25 years of driving with a conventional key, I still find myself reaching for the steering column to turn off the vehicle. I guess I will get used to that over time. The proximity sensor is really nice though for opening the doors.
By the way, if the battery in the keyless fob is dead, you cannot start the vehicle.
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I thought I had read in the OM (online) that if the battery is dead, you can hold the fob up to the START/STOP button, then the car can be started after you hear a beep. (Or something like that, presumably so the immobilizer in the fob can be sensed, thereby allowing a start.)
I thought some manufacturers--Chrysler, maybe--have an emergency key slot hidden behind the START/STOP button panel. The panel unsnaps with a screwdriver, kind of like Honda's slushbox shift-releases in the event the brake-interlock switch gets hosed. Then the key is inserted and turned to start the car the old-fashioned way, again with the immobilizer in the fob giving the OK.
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Whoops..hit the "Confirm"--meant to say "emergency key" for the Fiatsler "dead fob" start procedure.
Of course, my usual disclaimer applies to avoid a flame war: any and/or all of my B/S could be (and likely is) wrong! ;-)
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Mazda CX-5 has push button start across the lineup, including the manual model. It's convenient for the driver - no need to take the key out of the pocket or purse once you are in the car.
Is this critical? No, but it's just another feature that others have while Honda continues to be stingy about.
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Rgist85 wrote:
HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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Actually the Sentra doesn't have actual push button start, they've got the old Intellikey System that previous Nissan started using on the previous generation Maximas and previous Gen G35 that has all the functions of a proximity key (pushing the button on the door to open it) but you still have to turn the ignition switch with your hand.
The Altima has had push button start since MY 2007, its standard equipment. For My2013 every trim level except the base 2.5 and the 2.5S has remote engine start standard. Nissan now gives you push button start AND remote engine start on about 80 percent of the models that will be available.
I think we'll see push button start on EX-L and up...would be nice to see it on EX, but if EX-L and up don't have it, I'll be surprised.
EVERY competitor has it available...from the Passat, Altima (standard), Camry (SE, XLE, Hybrid), Mazda6 (GT trims), Malibu (LTZ), Optima (EX and SX), Sonata (SE and Limited), Fusion (Titanium)
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Yup, I know that system. My moms 2006 FX35 had that. Still a convenient thing with unlocking the doors at least.....
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ClementZ wrote:
HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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Honda needs HIDs and a push button?
HIDs have their advantages yes (larger, more robust light discharge), but they're more expensive, and are more prone to glare. It would certainly be nice if the Accord came with HIDs, I've never had a problem with its traditional lighting system, and I don't think I would now.
And I honestly don't understand the push button. The Altima came with a push button in 2007. And the S2000 came with a push button as well. And no one complained about the 8th gen's lack of push button.
But now, seeing as the Sentra has it, the Accord's lack of push button start shows inferiority?
Idk man. People have told me off about my ignorance on the push button and proximity keys, but honesty, they don't seem all that more convenient than regular keys. Plus they seem to be more problem prone than keys. I'd rather have something that is fail-safe over something that is convenient.
And again, Idk. As the midsize segment gets hotter, trinkets such as HIDs and buttons are are becoming deal-breakers.
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Are you serious? Please tell me you are not. It's 2012, almost 2013. Every single car in the class offers push button start as at least an option and you don't see the need for Honda to add it to their most important model? Seriously? After using it for a while, you see the convenience of it. Again, my moms G37 has push button start and keyless entry. All you do is press the button on the door to lock or unlock and then get inside, foot on the brake and the press to start. Bam. No fiddling with keys or anything. Fail safe? Go and buy an old car honestly. None of these new cars, even with "old" technology is simple.
Plus, everything else offers it. Honda can't get a pass for not adding this important feature to at least the top of the line Accords. There will be no excuse. Now for those that don't like them or don't feel the need to have that tech, just don't buy one with it.
Now HIDs? This is more of a want, but it's not terrible if Honda doesn't add them to the car. But when others in the class, like Kia, Nissan and Mazda, offer them on their top models, it makes ya think why can't Honda? At least for the top dog Accords.
And no, the Accord isn't inferior to the Sentra for not having push button start. But if Nissan can add something like that to the Sentra, Honda should be able to add it to the Accord. And better yet, the Civic too. Everything in that class (main cars) has push button too from the Forte to the Cruze to the Focus to the Jetta to the 3. Honda needs to get on board with these features. They shouldn't be an "Acura only" thing cause that doesn't fly in 2012 when Ford is offering option on the Focus that aren't even options on ANY ACURA. Sorry, but Acura can't just be "Honda Plus" anymore. Either move them up or kill them, cause limiting Honda in what they can and can't get will hurt them more than help.
Lastly, no one complained about the 8th generation Accord not having push button when it first came out cause back in late 2007, people still used keys and nothing in the class had it except maybe the Altima. In 2012, that ain't the case no more!
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"pushbutton start" is f--king factory rice and on top of that it kills people when you go runaway throttle and you can't turn off the car...
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HondaFan1990 wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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Honda needs HIDs and a push button?
HIDs have their advantages yes (larger, more robust light discharge), but they're more expensive, and are more prone to glare. It would certainly be nice if the Accord came with HIDs, I've never had a problem with its traditional lighting system, and I don't think I would now.
And I honestly don't understand the push button. The Altima came with a push button in 2007. And the S2000 came with a push button as well. And no one complained about the 8th gen's lack of push button.
But now, seeing as the Sentra has it, the Accord's lack of push button start shows inferiority?
Idk man. People have told me off about my ignorance on the push button and proximity keys, but honesty, they don't seem all that more convenient than regular keys. Plus they seem to be more problem prone than keys. I'd rather have something that is fail-safe over something that is convenient.
And again, Idk. As the midsize segment gets hotter, trinkets such as HIDs and buttons are are becoming deal-breakers.
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Are you serious? Please tell me you are not. It's 2012, almost 2013. Every single car in the class offers push button start as at least an option and you don't see the need for Honda to add it to their most important model? Seriously? After using it for a while, you see the convenience of it. Again, my moms G37 has push button start and keyless entry. All you do is press the button on the door to lock or unlock and then get inside, foot on the brake and the press to start. Bam. No fiddling with keys or anything. Fail safe? Go and buy an old car honestly. None of these new cars, even with "old" technology is simple.
Plus, everything else offers it. Honda can't get a pass for not adding this important feature to at least the top of the line Accords. There will be no excuse. Now for those that don't like them or don't feel the need to have that tech, just don't buy one with it.
Now HIDs? This is more of a want, but it's not terrible if Honda doesn't add them to the car. But when others in the class, like Kia, Nissan and Mazda, offer them on their top models, it makes ya think why can't Honda? At least for the top dog Accords.
And no, the Accord isn't inferior to the Sentra for not having push button start. But if Nissan can add something like that to the Sentra, Honda should be able to add it to the Accord. And better yet, the Civic too. Everything in that class (main cars) has push button too from the Forte to the Cruze to the Focus to the Jetta to the 3. Honda needs to get on board with these features. They shouldn't be an "Acura only" thing cause that doesn't fly in 2012 when Ford is offering option on the Focus that aren't even options on ANY ACURA. Sorry, but Acura can't just be "Honda Plus" anymore. Either move them up or kill them, cause limiting Honda in what they can and can't get will hurt them more than help.
Lastly, no one complained about the 8th generation Accord not having push button when it first came out cause back in late 2007, people still used keys and nothing in the class had it except maybe the Altima. In 2012, that ain't the case no more!
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I actually did complain way back in the fall of 2007 about a lack of push button start. The Camry in top trims and the Altima in all trims already had it for MY2007 and I was a bit surprised the Accord didn't offer it at all. Same deal with HIDs. Camrys still don't offer HIDs surprisingly.
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HondaFan1990 wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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Honda needs HIDs and a push button?
HIDs have their advantages yes (larger, more robust light discharge), but they're more expensive, and are more prone to glare. It would certainly be nice if the Accord came with HIDs, I've never had a problem with its traditional lighting system, and I don't think I would now.
And I honestly don't understand the push button. The Altima came with a push button in 2007. And the S2000 came with a push button as well. And no one complained about the 8th gen's lack of push button.
But now, seeing as the Sentra has it, the Accord's lack of push button start shows inferiority?
Idk man. People have told me off about my ignorance on the push button and proximity keys, but honesty, they don't seem all that more convenient than regular keys. Plus they seem to be more problem prone than keys. I'd rather have something that is fail-safe over something that is convenient.
And again, Idk. As the midsize segment gets hotter, trinkets such as HIDs and buttons are are becoming deal-breakers.
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Are you serious? Please tell me you are not. It's 2012, almost 2013. Every single car in the class offers push button start as at least an option and you don't see the need for Honda to add it to their most important model? Seriously? After using it for a while, you see the convenience of it. Again, my moms G37 has push button start and keyless entry. All you do is press the button on the door to lock or unlock and then get inside, foot on the brake and the press to start. Bam. No fiddling with keys or anything. Fail safe? Go and buy an old car honestly. None of these new cars, even with "old" technology is simple.
Plus, everything else offers it. Honda can't get a pass for not adding this important feature to at least the top of the line Accords. There will be no excuse. Now for those that don't like them or don't feel the need to have that tech, just don't buy one with it.
Now HIDs? This is more of a want, but it's not terrible if Honda doesn't add them to the car. But when others in the class, like Kia, Nissan and Mazda, offer them on their top models, it makes ya think why can't Honda? At least for the top dog Accords.
And no, the Accord isn't inferior to the Sentra for not having push button start. But if Nissan can add something like that to the Sentra, Honda should be able to add it to the Accord. And better yet, the Civic too. Everything in that class (main cars) has push button too from the Forte to the Cruze to the Focus to the Jetta to the 3. Honda needs to get on board with these features. They shouldn't be an "Acura only" thing cause that doesn't fly in 2012 when Ford is offering option on the Focus that aren't even options on ANY ACURA. Sorry, but Acura can't just be "Honda Plus" anymore. Either move them up or kill them, cause limiting Honda in what they can and can't get will hurt them more than help.
Lastly, no one complained about the 8th generation Accord not having push button when it first came out cause back in late 2007, people still used keys and nothing in the class had it except maybe the Altima. In 2012, that ain't the case no more!
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I am serious. I'm well aware of the year; I have three calenders on the apartment, one on the computer and one on my phone.
And I've said it before, in my original post: I don't understand the mindset that so values the convenience provided by push button start/a proximity key that the presence/lack thereof alone will dictate whether or not one buys a car.
But then again, I haven't lived with a push-button before. I've had it in a few rentals, but it really doesn't provide much of a convenience for me. When I get out of the car, I still need to fiddle for keys to unlock my apartment, unlock my room door, and unlock a few cabinets; no one has complained about the lack of a proximity key on these things, despite the fact that most of these things have existed longer than cars. But who knows, maybe homes are hoping on the proximity key bandwagon as well; the masterkey for my apartment has been replaced by a proximity key.
And you're probably absolutely right. Honda very well might lose possible sales because while ever competitor provides the proximity key, the Accord may not.
Personally, I'd rather see HIDs on the Accord than a proximity key. But again, as you've pointed out, to stay competitive, proximity keys are probably more important.
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Everyone has different priorities but dam push start is so useless.
Rappers sing about it in there bling bling songs. Therefore if those low ranks think its important...then I think its not needed.
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Regardless of if people think push button start is useful or not, Honda needs to offer it to stay competitive. Period. Everyone else offers it and Honda can not get a pass for something like that this go round.
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HondaFan1990 wrote:
Regardless of if people think push button start is useful or not, Honda needs to offer it to stay competitive. Period. Everyone else offers it and Honda can not get a pass for something like that this go round.
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A few of the spy shots have shown what appears to be keyless access (particularly on the Plug in hybrid pics) I think it will be available. The question remains as to which trims will have it in my view. I won't be so concerned if LX trims don't have it. Camry Base and LE models don't get keyless access, neither do base model Optimas and Sonatas and Malibus. Sport and up should have it but I think it will be EX-L and Touring trims that will end up with it.
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HondaFan1990
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Rgist85 wrote:
HondaFan1990 wrote:
Regardless of if people think push button start is useful or not, Honda needs to offer it to stay competitive. Period. Everyone else offers it and Honda can not get a pass for something like that this go round.
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A few of the spy shots have shown what appears to be keyless access (particularly on the Plug in hybrid pics) I think it will be available. The question remains as to which trims will have it in my view. I won't be so concerned if LX trims don't have it. Camry Base and LE models don't get keyless access, neither do base model Optimas and Sonatas and Malibus. Sport and up should have it but I think it will be EX-L and Touring trims that will end up with it.
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As long as it has it, that's all I'm worried about. Would be nice if base Accord's got it too though like base Altima's.
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HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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You will cry when your HID bulb burns out and you have to replace it. So unless you drive exclusively during night or have extremely bad night vision (you should not be driving in that case, btw) HIDs are not required.
Just because 'everybody' has pierced his/her bellybutton/nose/ear/brow/reproductive organ it does not mean it is 'convenient'. Start push buttons are gimmick which will get you in trouble in case of emergency or will refuse to work when really needed.
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BorisHonda wrote:
. Start push buttons are gimmick which will get you in trouble in case of emergency or will refuse to work when really needed.
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@BorisHonda, you could makew the same point about power windows for instance... Yet their now used all over.
Push start buttons and proximity detectors are here to stay and will become the standard in most cars.
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HondaFan1990
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BorisHonda wrote:
HondaFan1990 wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
dicko wrote:
I just don't get why some people want keyless start and HID headlights. I guess I'm just getting old.
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You could say it's to impress your friends. "Look at my sexy headlights. I can also open and start my car without a key. It's magic."
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Why HIDs? Because you can get them on the Optima, 6 and Altima. And they look very nice.
Why push button? Because everyone else has them in the class and it's very convenient.
We have to be honest with Honda and not pass over things that other cars in the class have if we want Honda to be competitive. Honda got their 6 speed and bluetooth is on all models, now we still need some push button and HIDs.
I would love to get a coupe with push button and HIDs. Those are just features that all brands have and Honda needs to add to their cars. I mean even the Mazda3 has HIDs and the Focus has push button. Even the Sentra does. The SENTRA!!!
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You will cry when your HID bulb burns out and you have to replace it. So unless you drive exclusively during night or have extremely bad night vision (you should not be driving in that case, btw) HIDs are not required.
Just because 'everybody' has pierced his/her bellybutton/nose/ear/brow/reproductive organ it does not mean it is 'convenient'. Start push buttons are gimmick which will get you in trouble in case of emergency or will refuse to work when really needed.
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Oh, shut up. Read my other posts where I say HIDs would be nice, but are more of a want.
And the Accord must have push button as an option. I don't care how many people on here say other wise because they might fail or whatever. That kind of foolish thinking will have Honda left behind. You or anyone else may personally not like them or whatever. Fine. That's fine. But you must look at the marketplace and the competition that the Accord is up against, the FIERCEST it's ever been in this segment, and remove personal opinion away for a moment. This segment is seeing cars do things they've never done before with options unthinkable in this class just 10 years ago. So Honda needs to get on board. Push Button needs to be at least an option on higher trim levels. For those that don't like it, don't buy it.
And what emergency is having a key better in? That would require having the key in your hand and being able to turn it quickly to turn the car on right? With push button, you step on the gas and press the button. As long as it's somewhere in the car you're fine. But honestly, what if's and shoulda, coulda and woulda do nothing for this conversation. Push button is needed. That's like saying the Accord doesn't need a 6 speed auto even though everything else has one. If that's the case, take us back down to 4 or 3 then.
I mean seriously. Some of the arguments against push button start on here I can halfway go along with, but for the 2013 model year, push button and a proxmity key need to be an option to stay competitive. If no one offered it, we wouldn't be discussing it.
But all of these cars offer one in the class:
Chevy Malibu
Ford Fusion
Hyundai Sonata
Kia Optima
Mazda 6
Nissan Altima
Suzuki Kizashi
Toyota Camry
VW Passat
Some of those cars are MAIN competition too. And people still vote against having push button? I just don't see the logic. I may not personally want navigation in my own car, but I can at least acknowledge why the offer it, especially since others have it and that's keeping up with competition. I just personally won't get mine with that. Same concept...
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S600=Dream
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Is this thread for real??
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TheGandalf
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Nop, it's just to keep us entertained until next pictures come out (or better yet, until we seat the official Feature matrix from Honda).
Once we see this matrix you will have some new cat fights about people being happy about some features while other people are miserable about the same ones.
We will then all find comon ground about the feature that Honda just didn't include and bitch about it until the MMC or 10gen release.
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DCR
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Gfn8r wrote:
I thought I had read in the OM (online) that if the battery is dead, you can hold the fob up to the START/STOP button, then the car can be started after you hear a beep. (Or something like that, presumably so the immobilizer in the fob can be sensed, thereby allowing a start.)
I thought some manufacturers--Chrysler, maybe--have an emergency key slot hidden behind the START/STOP button panel. The panel unsnaps with a screwdriver, kind of like Honda's slushbox shift-releases in the event the brake-interlock switch gets hosed. Then the key is inserted and turned to start the car the old-fashioned way, again with the immobilizer in the fob giving the OK.
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2013 RDX:
"If the key fob battery runs out, you can start the engine by pushing the start button and moving the key in front of the pressed start button while depressing the brake pedal."
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HondaFan1990
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TheGandalf wrote:
Nop, it's just to keep us entertained until next pictures come out (or better yet, until we seat the official Feature matrix from Honda).
Once we see this matrix you will have some new cat fights about people being happy about some features while other people are miserable about the same ones.
We will then all find comon ground about the feature that Honda just didn't include and bitch about it until the MMC or 10gen release.
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Basically. We're all just saying the same stuff until more goodies come out. Until then, bitch fest 2012 continues...
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