Koya76
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Honda should include paddle shifters on all automatic transmission car, at the least on upper levels. If there is any pride in fostering the Honda enthusiast DNA, that's how it should be. And no, such details don't take away from the Acura brand. Be proud.
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ClementZ
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Koya76 wrote:
Honda should include paddle shifters on all automatic transmission car, at the least on upper levels. If there is any pride in fostering the Honda enthusiast DNA, that's how it should be. And no, such details don't take away from the Acura brand. Be proud.
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I thought the 6MT was for the enthusiasts,
And the CVT for those who just wanted something to get them from A to B.
And again, if Honda really wanted to appeal to enthusiasts, instead of trying to fool people by putting flappy paddles on the 6AT for the V6, they should offer a 6MT in the V6 sedan.
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Koya76
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One option shouldn't exclude the other.
6MT should obviously remain an option (until cars drive themselves I suppose and IF people buy them).
Just saying that an auto trans with paddles (excluding DSG systems ) being the next best thing for many - and better still in the real world - with Honda priding itself on its "enthusiast" dna, they should be offered.
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Hondarulez
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Koya76 wrote:
One option shouldn't exclude the other.
6MT should obviously remain an option (until cars drive themselves I suppose and IF people buy them).
Just saying that an auto trans with paddles (excluding DSG systems ) being the next best thing for many - and better still in the real world - with Honda priding itself on its "enthusiast" dna, they should be offered.
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It's interesting that the Fit Sport has paddle shifters, but not the Accord. I guess the main reason is that Fit is made in Japan. I also hope to see paddle shifters in the Accord.
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dutchboy
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The 2011-12 Accord Coupe V6 5 A/T has paddle shifters.
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A77
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flappy paddles have the potential of making CVTs less annoying - ie having programmed shift steps. It also adds a certain fun to drive aspect. Given (in Canada) we can only get the Accord sedan with a manual base model (and that with the inferior 177hp engine) there's absolutely no enthusiast factor at the moment at all. I wouldn't be surprised to see no manual Accord sedan at all in canada for 2013. So surely we have to have paddles.
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Koya76
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Seconding this - obviously. And from Canada as well.
For sure, they're bound to include paddles on the so-called sport model.
Our FIT in Canada, even in sport guise, doesn't even get the paddles however (as it did with the last generation and still does in the States). Seriously.....
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A77
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Koya76 wrote:
Seconding this - obviously. And from Canada as well.
For sure, they're bound to include paddles on the so-called sport model.
Our FIT in Canada, even in sport guise, doesn't even get the paddles however (as it did with the last generation and still does in the States). Seriously.....
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Honda excused the flappy paddle deletion saying no-one used it and (if I remember right) it saved weight deleting it....err like half a pound? Then again they said that about the smaller fuel tank too. Lets not complain - we get Civic EX manuals and EXLs with a power seat. And bigger washer bottles. and bluetooth on LX Civics. and odyssey EXs.
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BorisHonda
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A77 wrote:
flappy paddles have the potential of making CVTs less annoying - ie having programmed shift steps. It also adds a certain fun to drive aspect. Given (in Canada) we can only get the Accord sedan with a manual base model (and that with the inferior 177hp engine) there's absolutely no enthusiast factor at the moment at all. I wouldn't be surprised to see no manual Accord sedan at all in canada for 2013. So surely we have to have paddles.
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So far every car with manumatic did not allow you to up shift into gear you really wanted to be. They all required certain speed attained before allowing you to up shift.
Therefore what is the point of having manumatic if computer controls your action???? If you want full gear control, buy manual; if Honda does not make it - do not buy it and let Honda know you did not buy their car due to this and that.
But since 99% of the rest of the Honda owners do not care about gear control, they will not listen to you at all...
And what is wrong with CVT? I do not have experience with CVT in cars but I will not have any other transmission on my Vespa...
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CarPhreakD
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Guys, if you want "manual control", buy a manual.
Otherwise stop kidding yourselves by buying a "sporty" CVT car with paddle shifters.
What I'd rather see in their place are more audio/infotainment controls on the back of the wheel. If you truly NEED a downshift on the highway, just use the stick, like normal people.
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Koya76
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Downshifts in city driving are actually quite convenient and spare the brakes. Same on highway when traffics suddenly slows down.
Country road driving can be quite enjoyable with paddle shifter automatics. And Honda's usually bounce off the redline, and don't shift for you.
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FiSH-Chan
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CarPhreakD wrote:
Guys, if you want "manual control", buy a manual.
Otherwise stop kidding yourselves by buying a "sporty" CVT car with paddle shifters.
What I'd rather see in their place are more audio/infotainment controls on the back of the wheel. If you truly NEED a downshift on the highway, just use the stick, like normal people. |
Come on we choose what we like. My idea of a fun car is one that handles well, not that it has a manual (bonus if they are both). In my place I have plenty of choice of cars all with manual options within my budget. They all suck in the handling AND pretty much everything else.
In my opinion, a manual adds a bit more fun, say 10% to the whole experience, but when we get into traffic jam it becomes negative -1000000% especially nowadays there is some roadwork going on my road to work and home and we are just sitting there all the time. A 15 minute drive becomes 45 minutes.
If the CVT does well with a manual shifting mode and 'shifts' like an automatic then why not. Manual automatic helps in some situations when the automatic part doesn't do what you want, especially when they have so many gears now. You might not be able to put it into top gear at 20km/h or downshift into 1st from 60kph, but who in their right mind would want to do that with a manual either.
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Koya76
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Agreed Fish-Chan.
Where are the "likes" or +1 buttons in the vtec forum ;-)
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