mac_powah
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Hello fellow TOV members...
I recently picked up a 2008 Honda accord lx with 94000 kms. It is still under factory warranty and also is Honda certified so it has another year or 25000 kms of additional warranty.
I was recently driving it and while in drive, the green "D" indicator started flashing. I consulted the owner's manual and it said to take it to the dealer. There is no malfunction indicator in conjunction ( which the manual says is critical).
After I took it to the dealer, the diagnostic said it was the 3rd relay switch? I don't have the paper in front of me. Has anyone else had this problem? I do notice a slight jerkiness in the transmission from time to time, especially from 1-2 but sometimes from 3-4. I always have manual cars, so I'm not sure how the auto should be acting.
Btw, the dealership I first brought it to wanted to charge me for the repair, stating that it's an electrical problem and not a powertrain problem, even though it has to do with the transmission. Pardon me? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!
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Longhorn
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When was the last time the fluid was changed? Have you checked the levels?
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CarGuyLee
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I have an 08 with 66K miles, no problems with the tranny.
Kind of scary if this really is a problem. My parents have an 01 Accord that the tranny went out at 89K miles, but Honda had extended the warranty to 100K. Now at 165K it is going out again. A friend had an 02 (got rid of it 2 months ago) with 110K that the tranny went out in. He said at about 80K it was having some issues and they told him to change the fluid and that seemed to help. The Honda mechanic this time told him he got 30K more miles than most out of it.
I think best bet is to take it to another place and have it checked out, maybe another dealer, and see if they come up with anything different. Consider changing the fluid also.
Be sure to let us know what you find out. Thanks
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JeffX
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CarGuyLee wrote:
I have an 08 with 66K miles, no problems with the tranny.
Kind of scary if this really is a problem. My parents have an 01 Accord that the tranny went out at 89K miles, but Honda had extended the warranty to 100K. Now at 165K it is going out again. A friend had an 02 (got rid of it 2 months ago) with 110K that the tranny went out in. He said at about 80K it was having some issues and they told him to change the fluid and that seemed to help. The Honda mechanic this time told him he got 30K more miles than most out of it.
I think best bet is to take it to another place and have it checked out, maybe another dealer, and see if they come up with anything different. Consider changing the fluid also.
Be sure to let us know what you find out. Thanks
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weren't all of those past transmission problems tied to the Accord v6? I don't remember that issue impacting the 4-cylinder models.
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mac_powah
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The car is Honda certified and I just go it about 2 weeks ago, so I would assume the fluid was changed. I'm taking it to another dealer today so I will keep you posted as to what the issue is. Btw the technician before said that this issue is very rare, so we'll see!
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CarGuyLee
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Jeff wrote:
CarGuyLee wrote:
I have an 08 with 66K miles, no problems with the tranny.
Kind of scary if this really is a problem. My parents have an 01 Accord that the tranny went out at 89K miles, but Honda had extended the warranty to 100K. Now at 165K it is going out again. A friend had an 02 (got rid of it 2 months ago) with 110K that the tranny went out in. He said at about 80K it was having some issues and they told him to change the fluid and that seemed to help. The Honda mechanic this time told him he got 30K more miles than most out of it.
I think best bet is to take it to another place and have it checked out, maybe another dealer, and see if they come up with anything different. Consider changing the fluid also.
Be sure to let us know what you find out. Thanks
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weren't all of those past transmission problems tied to the Accord v6? I don't remember that issue impacting the 4-cylinder models.
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My parents is a 4cyl, which is the one on it's second transmission. I do know that my parents are really good about maintinance and always take it to the dealer.
The friends was a 6cyl and now that you mention that I think he did mention something about them telling him it had to do with the 6cyl. So don't know for sure. They traded it and bought a CR-V.
My uncle had an 01 V6, that he recieved notice of the transmission warranty being extended but he never had any problems, but sold it with around 60K miles.
My 08 Accord is a V6, we plan on keeping it for a while longer so I hope we don't have any problems with it.
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talon95
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Jeff wrote:
weren't all of those past transmission problems tied to the Accord v6? I don't remember that issue impacting the 4-cylinder models.
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I think you're right. I had a 2000 EX V6 that had its AT replaced about 2 months after I got it... not because it failed but because it exhibited a loud thunk when you started moving while in reverse. It sounded like you had run into something. They also replaced the torque converter later on because of a clutch plate issue that supposedly fixed a shudder that showed up under light throttle while in overdrive. Helped a little but didn't cure it. Loved everything about the car except for the transmission.
I took a chance on a 2003 EX V6 because of the new 5AT. The shudder didn't show up during test drives, so it seemed OK. It did have the recall due to insufficient lubrication to one of the gears under certain circumstances. I had the recall work done even though I hadn't had any problems. The 5AT was everything the 4AT wasn't... smooth, fast shifting and reliable.
I'm on my second Gen 8 V6 sedan and the updated 5AT (4 shaft unit shared with Pilot, MDX and Ridgeline) works just as well as the previous 5AT.
Anyway, the gen 6 AT issues were for the V6 only, as well as the recall for the gen 7 ATs. The only major recall for the I4 AT that I'm aware of is the one from last year on '05-'10 Accords and other Hondas for a potential problem with the secondary shaft bearing. None of the gen 6 I4 AT. So none of these issues should affect the OP.
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talon95
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talon95 wrote:
None of the gen 6 I4 AT. So none of these issues should affect the OP.
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Should have been "None ON the gen 6 I4 AT".
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CarGuyLee
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talon95 wrote:
talon95 wrote:
None of the gen 6 I4 AT. So none of these issues should affect the OP.
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Should have been "None ON the gen 6 I4 AT".
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Why would they have extended the warranty on them then?
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talon95
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CarGuyLee wrote:
talon95 wrote:
talon95 wrote:
None of the gen 6 I4 AT. So none of these issues should affect the OP.
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Should have been "None ON the gen 6 I4 AT".
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Why would they have extended the warranty on them then?
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Though I might have missed it, I don't believe there were any specific recalls or TSBs on the gen 6 I4 AT. I was unaware of the fact that Honda had extended the warranty on the AT on all 00-01 Accords... I thought it was limited to the V6 models. Turns out that there were specific identified issues with the V6 ATs and a more generalized "high number of failures" with the I4 ATs. So they lumped them all together and extended the warranty.
The solution as stated in the extended warranty notice to dealers was to either replace the torque converter or the entire transmission. As I stated above, I had both done on my '00 V6.
A slightly modified version of the warranty extension was issued in 2006 as part of a settlement of a related class action lawsuit against Honda. The key terms (models affected, length of extension, repair methods, etc.) were unchanged.
Unfortunately, this doesn't help the OP. I checked on another site for recalls and TSBs and I didn't find anything regarding gen 8 transmissions. So any help would have to be anecdotal from other owners. My gen 8's have been fine, but the V6 AT is different from that of the I4.
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JonBoy
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talon95 wrote:
talon95 wrote:
None of the gen 6 I4 AT. So none of these issues should affect the OP.
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Should have been "None ON the gen 6 I4 AT".
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Our Gen 6 I4 had the AT transmission fail on it. Plenty of others did, too.
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talon95
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JonBoy wrote:
talon95 wrote:
talon95 wrote:
None of the gen 6 I4 AT. So none of these issues should affect the OP.
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Should have been "None ON the gen 6 I4 AT".
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Our Gen 6 I4 had the AT transmission fail on it. Plenty of others did, too.
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Yeah, my bad. While I still don't think that Honda issued any recalls for the gen 6 I4 AT, my statement implied that there weren't any AT problems with those models, which turns out to be untrue. By digging a bit deeper, I found the specific information about the extended warranty which provided the details about the I4 models of which I was unaware. I included corrected information in the post just before yours. Sorry about that. :(
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CarGuyLee
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Thanks for the update. My parents car 2nd transmission is on it's way out at 160K miles. They will probably just ride it out until it actually dies. Right now it is just having trouble reversing, sometimes will, sometimes won't. It however hasn't seemed to worry them about buying another Honda.
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timp64
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My 2000 accord se i4 auto had trans problems too. I had 80,000 miles in about 3 years and I was probably one of the earlier people to experience the problem. I had it "fixed" once under warranty. It wasn't so fixed, so I traded it on an 03 manual transmission. I still have it and it has just over 130,000 miles and runs pretty good.
Honda has had some transmission problems since then too. We had an 07 odyssey with problems, but they were fixed. Although I haven't heard any about the current generation accords. And I hope they are fine since we own an 2011 ex i4 mt for our main car.
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LQH
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My parent's 02 Accord 4 cylinder has 140K+ miles on it and the transmission feels fine the last time I drove it. They've never changed the transmission fluid and only have done regular oil and filter changes. I don't believe the timing belt's ever been changed, either :/ But yeah, the car's been amazingly reliable still drives like new.
My sister's former 01 Civic had 84k miles before it was totaled. The transmission in that one felt a little questionable from what I can remember towards the end of its life, but then again, the transmission was notoriously bad in that particular year of Civic. Her current 09 CRV has 50k+ miles and still drives good as new; it's an amazingly good vehicle.
That being said, however, I'd still be paranoid investing in an automatic Honda because of all the horror stories I've heard about it.
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mac_powah
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Ok, so I just got the car back. Turns out it was a "3rd clutch pressure failure". The had the part and changed it within an hour. Car runs perfectly new again.
I haven't had the car long, but I really do like it. My parents have a 1993 Accord EX with 330,000kms on it and they love it despite it starting to rust to pieces (what a shame!). The paint is still glossy and this is the best looking Accord design IMO.
Hopefully this 2008 Accord holds up as well as that one, but only time will tell!
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talon95
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mac_powah wrote:
Ok, so I just got the car back. Turns out it was a "3rd clutch pressure failure". The had the part and changed it within an hour. Car runs perfectly new again.
I haven't had the car long, but I really do like it. My parents have a 1993 Accord EX with 330,000kms on it and they love it despite it starting to rust to pieces (what a shame!). The paint is still glossy and this is the best looking Accord design IMO.
Hopefully this 2008 Accord holds up as well as that one, but only time will tell!
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Great news! My 2 gen 8 Accords have been reliable and I've enjoyed them a lot. Now that your transmission has been fixed, I hope your experience is as good as mine has been.
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CarGuyLee
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thanks for the update. Wonder why the first dealer didn't find it though. Strange
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mac_powah
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They did find it but they wanted to charge me for it, as this was an "electrical issue" not a powertrain issue. Yeah, OK! lol
The dealership I bought the car at is an hour away even though I have a Honda dealership close to my house - the one close to home just sucks, that's all! I took it there originally because I wasn't sure how serious the issue was. After charging me $65 for the diagnostic and then wantng to charge me $195 to fix the issue, I immediately called the dealership I bought the car from, and they called over to my local Honda dealer to get all of the info, then fixed it no questions asked. Much better, and I will always be taking it there from now on.
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Cfox84
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I had a 2005 Honda Accord V6 Coupe. The Car had all maintence done at the dealership and the tranny just went out at 135K. Honda needs to either start buying transmissions made by an outside source or really think about putting some R&D in the Automatics... Anyway, not to scare anyone but Watch out if you have a 2003-2007 V6 Accord....
That being said I have moved onto another V6 Accord Auto after the dealer and AMH gave me no hassel trade and below invoice pricing...kind of tells you something.
Why sell a 30,700 dollar car for 24590K? No hasseling and buy my 135K mile accord for 8k?
Hoping for another 200K on the new one!
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