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Longhorn
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2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 09:37
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/04/2014-chevrolet-impala-new-york-2012/

Nice design,the one thing that stands out to me is that it has "presence". Handsome,epecially in darker colors.

And yes the grille is the new Chevy design language.

What do you think Neal?


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Dren
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 09:53
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I think it is a sharp looking car. The interior looks nice minus the steering wheel which looks like it was ripped out of a Chevy from the 90s. The new GM interiors always look nice in photos but the material quality is often subpar in person.
A77
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 11:19
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The static photos make it look very bland but the video on the other hand...nice. Interesting, if surely distracting, touchscreen navi display.
Jovian8
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 11:27
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is it just me?

While this is okay design ....
it could be a Honda ...
because ALL sedans are starting to look the same to me.

The new Impala, RLX, Altima, BMW all have the same profile.
JonBoy
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 11:28
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In dark colors, it looks quite good. In light colors, fairly bland. Interior looks nice, overall - certainly a huge step up from the old model!!!

That said, I thought the new Malibu looked good in pictures, especially the interior, and in person it was a lot less interesting. I'll hold my final judgement until I see these on the lot, in person...
TonyEX
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 11:37
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(1) GM shows its hand so far in advance that by the time the cars hit the street they're old news.

(2) I don't believe the mileage numbers for the base four liter. I think it's way too optimistic and likely -as usual- tuned to a fake EPA number.

(3) I like it better then the Korean cars but still a bit too much for me. The front grill looks design to make assembly cheap. Note how the grill and headlight comprise the whole grill, with no expensive metal in between them. I'm not impressed.
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 11:48
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Jovian8 wrote:
is it just me?

While this is okay design ....
it could be a Honda ...
because ALL sedans are starting to look the same to me.

The new Impala, RLX, Altima, BMW all have the same profile.



When I saw the impala I saw RLX aswell. haha
Longhorn
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 11:50
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Jovian8 wrote:
is it just me?

While this is okay design ....
it could be a Honda ...
because ALL sedans are starting to look the same to me.

The new Impala, RLX, Altima, BMW all have the same profile.



No you are right, the grille is generic. This is the new international face for Chevy, which works better than the one horizonal bar look that is has now.

One could put a H on the grille and it could be a Honda.
CarGuyLee
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 13:17
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TonyE wrote:
(1) GM shows its hand so far in advance that by the time the cars hit the street they're old news.

(2) I don't believe the mileage numbers for the base four liter. I think it's way too optimistic and likely -as usual- tuned to a fake EPA number.

(3) I like it better then the Korean cars but still a bit too much for me. The front grill looks design to make assembly cheap. Note how the grill and headlight comprise the whole grill, with no expensive metal in between them. I'm not impressed.



Everyones 'EPA numbers are too optimistic and tuned to a fake EPA number' right? What do you think about the whole JFK deal? 9-11?? Please enlighten us to the truth....
TonyEX
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 13:56
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CarGuyLee wrote:
TonyE wrote:
(1) GM shows its hand so far in advance that by the time the cars hit the street they're old news.

(2) I don't believe the mileage numbers for the base four liter. I think it's way too optimistic and likely -as usual- tuned to a fake EPA number.

(3) I like it better then the Korean cars but still a bit too much for me. The front grill looks design to make assembly cheap. Note how the grill and headlight comprise the whole grill, with no expensive metal in between them. I'm not impressed.



Everyones 'EPA numbers are too optimistic and tuned to a fake EPA number' right? What do you think about the whole JFK deal? 9-11?? Please enlighten us to the truth....



Some car manufacturers (GM, Hyundai most notably) game the EPA numbers by tuning their cars to the EPA testing profile.

But on the real world they never return such numbers and are a pain in the butt to drive because they like to up shift at the earliest opportunity.

Case in point is the GM CUVs and the Hyundai Elantra.

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/heres-why-real-world-mpg-doesnt-match-epa-ratings.html

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/why-the-chevy-equinox-epa-mileage-numbers-dont-add-up/

OTOH, some car manufacturers, notable Honda and Toyota, publish EPA numbers that are often pessimistic.

Now that I have educated you to the real world please take your political innuendo to the Political Forum where I will flame you to very fine dust.
CarGuyLee
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 14:32
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TonyE wrote:
CarGuyLee wrote:
TonyE wrote:
(1) GM shows its hand so far in advance that by the time the cars hit the street they're old news.

(2) I don't believe the mileage numbers for the base four liter. I think it's way too optimistic and likely -as usual- tuned to a fake EPA number.

(3) I like it better then the Korean cars but still a bit too much for me. The front grill looks design to make assembly cheap. Note how the grill and headlight comprise the whole grill, with no expensive metal in between them. I'm not impressed.



Everyones 'EPA numbers are too optimistic and tuned to a fake EPA number' right? What do you think about the whole JFK deal? 9-11?? Please enlighten us to the truth....



Some car manufacturers (GM, Hyundai most notably) game the EPA numbers by tuning their cars to the EPA testing profile.

But on the real world they never return such numbers and are a pain in the butt to drive because they like to up shift at the earliest opportunity.

Case in point is the GM CUVs and the Hyundai Elantra.

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/heres-why-real-world-mpg-doesnt-match-epa-ratings.html

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/why-the-chevy-equinox-epa-mileage-numbers-dont-add-up/

OTOH, some car manufacturers, notable Honda and Toyota, publish EPA numbers that are often pessimistic.

Now that I have educated you to the real world please take your political innuendo to the Political Forum where I will flame you to very fine dust.



You mean like the HCH complaints..... yeah. You educated me alright..... blanket theories are the best way to over come a competitor doing well by showing my hatred for a car that isn't coming out for a year.... I'll keep that in mind for next time... thanks for the education.
TonyEX
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 16:38
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CarGuyLee wrote:
TonyE wrote:
CarGuyLee wrote:
TonyE wrote:
(1) GM shows its hand so far in advance that by the time the cars hit the street they're old news.

(2) I don't believe the mileage numbers for the base four liter. I think it's way too optimistic and likely -as usual- tuned to a fake EPA number.

(3) I like it better then the Korean cars but still a bit too much for me. The front grill looks design to make assembly cheap. Note how the grill and headlight comprise the whole grill, with no expensive metal in between them. I'm not impressed.



Everyones 'EPA numbers are too optimistic and tuned to a fake EPA number' right? What do you think about the whole JFK deal? 9-11?? Please enlighten us to the truth....



Some car manufacturers (GM, Hyundai most notably) game the EPA numbers by tuning their cars to the EPA testing profile.

But on the real world they never return such numbers and are a pain in the butt to drive because they like to up shift at the earliest opportunity.

Case in point is the GM CUVs and the Hyundai Elantra.

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/heres-why-real-world-mpg-doesnt-match-epa-ratings.html

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/why-the-chevy-equinox-epa-mileage-numbers-dont-add-up/

OTOH, some car manufacturers, notable Honda and Toyota, publish EPA numbers that are often pessimistic.

Now that I have educated you to the real world please take your political innuendo to the Political Forum where I will flame you to very fine dust.



You mean like the HCH complaints..... yeah. You educated me alright..... blanket theories are the best way to over come a competitor doing well by showing my hatred for a car that isn't coming out for a year.... I'll keep that in mind for next time... thanks for the education.



As a matter of fact, I have an HCH and I can tell you that those complains are from idiots who have no idea how to drive a hybrid. People who drive in town, with the AC on, who jack rabbit from starts and hit the brakes without allowing IMA to use regenerative charging are simply throwing away the hardware. if you look at my posts, you will see that some of us here at TOV have HCHs and we have posted our numbers.

For that matter, if you drive _any_ car like that you will never get half of the EPA numbers.

So... what were you saying again?

Did you read the links or are you just remembering your V6 Impala?

Did you add any comments of value in reply to my comments or are just attacking my character for kicks? What exactly do you mean by bringing up JFK and 9/11? Are you calling me a conspiracy nut?

Hmmm... interesting enough... the EPA did dump on BMW's numbers but they let Government Motors get away even though the best number, from the greenies, for their CUVs is 25 mpg for something that GM calls good for 33mpg...

CarGuyLee
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 17:46
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TonyE wrote:
CarGuyLee wrote:
TonyE wrote:
CarGuyLee wrote:
TonyE wrote:
(1) GM shows its hand so far in advance that by the time the cars hit the street they're old news.

(2) I don't believe the mileage numbers for the base four liter. I think it's way too optimistic and likely -as usual- tuned to a fake EPA number.

(3) I like it better then the Korean cars but still a bit too much for me. The front grill looks design to make assembly cheap. Note how the grill and headlight comprise the whole grill, with no expensive metal in between them. I'm not impressed.



Everyones 'EPA numbers are too optimistic and tuned to a fake EPA number' right? What do you think about the whole JFK deal? 9-11?? Please enlighten us to the truth....



Some car manufacturers (GM, Hyundai most notably) game the EPA numbers by tuning their cars to the EPA testing profile.

But on the real world they never return such numbers and are a pain in the butt to drive because they like to up shift at the earliest opportunity.

Case in point is the GM CUVs and the Hyundai Elantra.

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/heres-why-real-world-mpg-doesnt-match-epa-ratings.html

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/why-the-chevy-equinox-epa-mileage-numbers-dont-add-up/

OTOH, some car manufacturers, notable Honda and Toyota, publish EPA numbers that are often pessimistic.

Now that I have educated you to the real world please take your political innuendo to the Political Forum where I will flame you to very fine dust.



You mean like the HCH complaints..... yeah. You educated me alright..... blanket theories are the best way to over come a competitor doing well by showing my hatred for a car that isn't coming out for a year.... I'll keep that in mind for next time... thanks for the education.



As a matter of fact, I have an HCH and I can tell you that those complains are from idiots who have no idea how to drive a hybrid. People who drive in town, with the AC on, who jack rabbit from starts and hit the brakes without allowing IMA to use regenerative charging are simply throwing away the hardware. if you look at my posts, you will see that some of us here at TOV have HCHs and we have posted our numbers.

For that matter, if you drive _any_ car like that you will never get half of the EPA numbers.

So... what were you saying again?

Did you read the links or are you just remembering your V6 Impala?

Did you add any comments of value in reply to my comments or are just attacking my character for kicks? What exactly do you mean by bringing up JFK and 9/11? Are you calling me a conspiracy nut?

Hmmm... interesting enough... the EPA did dump on BMW's numbers but they let Government Motors get away even though the best number, from the greenies, for their CUVs is 25 mpg for something that GM calls good for 33mpg...




Wow dude, your taking this way to personally. And reading way to much into it. It was meant as a joke, that you would blanket a whole company as consipring to make false claims. If you looked on the GM fan site, you would see I said something similar to thoes trying to tear down the new Altima numbers. And still trying to because of one car. That's like me saying that the problems with the HCH means that every thing Honda produces has some problem that they conspired to fool the public. I know two people who own/owned HCH and they had vastly different results, even when the two people switched the cars for a week. All that means is there was a problem with some cars, but by no means does it mean that the company consipred to make these cars bad.

Yes I read the links...well one, only one would pull up, and in the one I read it talked about HCH in addition to others.

It had nothing to do with politics...you can take that and your 'goverment motors' agenda over to the political lounge like you suggested.....I'm more interested in the cars

My point is the car isn't coming out for over a year, and you are ready to cast doubt based on something that isn't even official....showing bias for bias sake.

Yes I remember my Impala V6, have you ever owned any GM products?
CarGuyLee
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-04-2012 17:50
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Oh and now you have to drive a special way to get good hybrid MPG numbers?
TonyEX
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-05-2012 13:28
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Oh and now you have to drive a special way to get good hybrid MPG numbers?


To get the real high mileage, you do have to drive _differently_ so that you can minimize the use of the gas engine, maximize the use of the batteries, maximize braking regeneration and use cruise control on the high as much as possible.

This is pretty much for all hybrids, but it actually is the same for non hybrids as well: if you are light on the throttle and brakes you will usually get the best mileage numbers on any car.

Once upon a time, I owned a '70 Vega GT MT4.. which, BTW, I loved. It had a re-sleeved engine, of course, but it was a very fun car to drive. I actually was lusting after a Cosworth Vega at one point in my life.

And several of my friends had GMs with the small block... very fun cars to drive in a straight line... but this was in the 70s.

I've also rented tons of GM cars.... not really impressed since.
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-05-2012 13:40
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TOOOOO BOXY! and Awkward looking with its raised suspension.
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-05-2012 20:27
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-05-2012 20:31
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-05-2012 21:36
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Argumentative? Yes
Outgunned? Yes
Troll? Maybe not
CarGuyLee
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-06-2012 00:30
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Mr. Taggert strokes.........
longhorn
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-06-2012 06:05
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To get back on track.................

I would like to hear Jeff's or Neal's take on this design. There are both in New York, right? What does it look like in the flesh?
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-06-2012 12:08
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I don't know. I'm not feeling it. It's ridiculous how they're jacking up the ride height of cars these days too. Even the poor 12' Civic suffered this.
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-06-2012 13:13
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For Tony, so he can get a bead on how my HCH is going around here.

Last night I reset my trip meter in my HCH at the light before my on-ramp. It was 52 degrees or so, and little to no wind, so I figured I would see how high I could get the MPG while trying as hard as possible to do so.

Some nights, I hit the perfect time for commuting, and this was one of them, so why not? I left the light, giving so little gas that the assist bars never got beyond one, if any, and I slowly got up to 65 mph in the right lane (this took painfully long), while never breaking 2800 RPM. I set my cruise at 65, heat set to LO, no defrost or A/C, and literally cruised for 14 miles on the highway without once touching the gas or brake. I got flipped off twice, honked at once and passed by about 200 cars (80 is about average on this stretch.) I just smiled back while being "that guy" for the evening out on the road.

At the off-ramp where I had to hit the brakes for the first time, my trip meter read 42.5 MPG. Given the fact that I will never probably drive that gingerly due to average traffic around here, I can't expect this car to return stellar MPG.

I reset the meter this morning before I left, and including the drive to the ramp, and the 3-4 situations I had to get on the gas, and cruise set at 77 mph, my meter read 33.2 when I got to work.

TonyEX
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-06-2012 19:27
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For Tony, so he can get a bead on how my HCH is going around here.

Last night I reset my trip meter in my HCH at the light before my on-ramp. It was 52 degrees or so, and little to no wind, so I figured I would see how high I could get the MPG while trying as hard as possible to do so.

Some nights, I hit the perfect time for commuting, and this was one of them, so why not? I left the light, giving so little gas that the assist bars never got beyond one, if any, and I slowly got up to 65 mph in the right lane (this took painfully long), while never breaking 2800 RPM. I set my cruise at 65, heat set to LO, no defrost or A/C, and literally cruised for 14 miles on the highway without once touching the gas or brake. I got flipped off twice, honked at once and passed by about 200 cars (80 is about average on this stretch.) I just smiled back while being "that guy" for the evening out on the road.

At the off-ramp where I had to hit the brakes for the first time, my trip meter read 42.5 MPG. Given the fact that I will never probably drive that gingerly due to average traffic around here, I can't expect this car to return stellar MPG.

I reset the meter this morning before I left, and including the drive to the ramp, and the 3-4 situations I had to get on the gas, and cruise set at 77 mph, my meter read 33.2 when I got to work.




Wow...

Something not good there.

Was the battery charged?
Did the IMA show green?
Did you drive with cruise control.
How good are your tires?

I mean, I could easily get 39 to 40 mpg with cruise control set to 79 mph in my drives to San Diego.. and that included some coastal hills and WOT on the merge.



DCR
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-06-2012 22:19
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My battery was fully charged, and the IMA will charge/green during the cruise at various points. Cruise was set.

The tires on the car were new (CPO Honda stuff) but I do not think they are the OEM ones.

There is no freaking way I can get a steady mid-30's if I go WOT at all.
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-07-2012 17:34
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this car is damn ugly. The interior looks awkward. It is wonder GM survives thus far.
TonyEX
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-08-2012 00:42
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DCR wrote:
My battery was fully charged, and the IMA will charge/green during the cruise at various points. Cruise was set.

The tires on the car were new (CPO Honda stuff) but I do not think they are the OEM ones.

There is no freaking way I can get a steady mid-30's if I go WOT at all.



Did you have the IMA reflash?
DCR
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-08-2012 00:43
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I had a chance to check this out in pics tonight.

It is a mess. Designs run which way and that, there is no cohesion. The interior is a bomb lit and detonated.

The Accord will have no trouble.
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-08-2012 00:58
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From the side, the car appeared to be a twisted wreck....oops, that's the new 2014 Impala!
A77
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Re: 2014 Chevy Impala    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-08-2012 10:06
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Watching the video again - and how good it looks there - and how awful the static pics are - maybe its not just colour. maybe its cos the video is 100% cgi and not a real Impala. In the video its like they crossed the actual thing with a Passat CC, and a bit of Charger/ILX thrown in at the back. Either way it looks like rear headroom is compromised - won't even make a good taxi. Nobody else has been buying them.
 
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