NSXman
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I know some on this forum are skeptical of Hyundai and their 40mpg claim on some cars. Just thought I'd pass along what I saw on the trunk lid of an Elantra this morning.
A nice, professional looking bumper sticker that said "DOES NOT GET 40 MPG".
Hahaha. I think someone is disappointed with their purchase.
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DCR
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Neither does my hybrid :)
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Jovian8
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My 2011 Elantra easily gets 40 mpgUS
I drive 1000km weekly at the speed limit of 110kph.
Your mileage may vary.
Here's a good test verifying 40mpg.
They tested Elantra & Focus and EASILY achieved 40mpg.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/fuel-economy/mileage-moment-of-truth-we-put-40-mpg-claims-to-the-test-6651300
But these two cars demonstrate that with very little behavior modification, 40 mpg is quite a realistic figure. Not only is it easy to achieve, it's easy to surpass, even under less than ideal conditions
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Gumbercules
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Except you ignore that so many consumers are being tricked into ignoring CITY/COMBINED MPG and they think the car "gets" 40mpg overall.
You think the salesman is emphasizing combined mpg when talking to uninformed customers? NO! All the salesperson says is "Yep, this gets 40mpg."
Good HWY mpg is easy to get, if you know basic physics: maintaining constant speed requires less energy than accelerating at every stop sign.
Here is some better mpg data: AVERAGE OWNER REPORTED MPG
http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/civic/2012
http://www.fuelly.com/car/hyundai/elantra/2012
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NealX
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^I suspect that only his own mileage is important.
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JonBoy
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They easily got 40 mpg at 55 mph. Who drives 55 mph on the highway?!?!? I did an extended drive on Louisiana back roads a few years ago in our 2008 Honda Civic LX and was getting over 50 mpg at those speeds (60 mph).
At 70 mph, they did not achieve 40 mpg, per that article. The Elantra got 39.3 mpg and the Focus got 33.5 mpg (LOL).
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DCR
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Across the UP of Michigan, I went 60mph on cruise, and got 36mpg in my hybrid. At 80, I average 32-33.
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Jovian8
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read again . they easily got 50 mpg at 55mph.
They almost got 40mpg at 70mph which means
they can get 40mpg easily at 65mph which is my experience.
LOL
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Jovian8
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btw JonBoy, you scoff at my personal experience... but then offer your own anecdote as gospel. LOL ??
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JonBoy
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Jovian8 wrote:
read again . they easily got 50 mpg at 55mph.
They almost got 40mpg at 70mph which means
they can get 40mpg easily at 65mph which is my experience.
LOL
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I think YOU need to read it again. Neither of the cars got 50 mpg at 55 mph. At 55 mph, the Elantra got 47.6 mpg and the Focus got 47.5 mpg (read the second page of the article).
I don't dispute what you get in your car. I dispute what you said they got in that magazine article. ;)
The 55 mph test was silly since no one drives that slow and no speed limits in the Continental USA/Canada are that low on the highway.
I was relating my experience, just as you were relating yours. I have been able to achieve better-than-typical fuel economy in our Civic (42+ mpg at average speeds well over 70 mph) but that doesn't mean everyone gets that.
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JeffX
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DCR wrote:
Across the UP of Michigan, I went 60mph on cruise, and got 36mpg in my hybrid. At 80, I average 32-33.
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I can understand the 32-33 at 80 but 36mpg at 60mph? I think your hybrid is faulty or you were driving in some gusty winds, running on flat tires or something. I can get 36mpg (or more) in my Civic Si if i hold a 60mph cruise.
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Hondasrule
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Low rolling resistance tires?
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S600=Dream
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My '07 Fit gets 41 on the highway at around 65 mph, and I average in the mid to high 30's putzing around town depending on the weather.
I have a friend with an Elantra who complains about lousy gas mileage.
The EPA is silly.
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DCR
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Jeff wrote:
DCR wrote:
Across the UP of Michigan, I went 60mph on cruise, and got 36mpg in my hybrid. At 80, I average 32-33.
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I can understand the 32-33 at 80 but 36mpg at 60mph? I think your hybrid is faulty or you were driving in some gusty winds, running on flat tires or something. I can get 36mpg (or more) in my Civic Si if i hold a 60mph cruise.
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The dealer I bought my hybrid from is starting to come around, by themselves, that something is not right with my car. They've got another customer with an 09 as well who drives pretty hard and commutes at 80 and claims he gets 44-46 all day.
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Gumbercules
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Jovian8 wrote:
read again . they easily got 50 mpg at 55mph.
They almost got 40mpg at 70mph which means
they can get 40mpg easily at 65mph which is my experience.
LOL
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And yet 112 MY2012 elantras driven over 521,000 miles are only averaging 29.7mpg.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/hyundai/elantra
So it doesn't matter if it can get 40+mpg at constant HWY speeds, because the majority of people are not going to drive on the HWY >90% of the time.
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Gumbercules
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S600=Dream wrote:
My '07 Fit gets 41 on the highway at around 65 mph, and I average in the mid to high 30's putzing around town depending on the weather.
I have a friend with an Elantra who complains about lousy gas mileage.
The EPA is silly.
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EPA sets the guidelines, manufacturers test and assign EPA MPG numbers. I think the EPA did a decent job with the new guidelines, but I wish they would be the ones to test each vehicle.
On top of that, all marketing focuses on HWY MPG now, whereas before they used to state all three City/Combined/HWY numbers. So your friend probably was psyched abt "40mpg!" since that's what the marketers wanted him to focus on.
Fuelly is your friend.
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according2kev
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Gumbercules wrote:
S600=Dream wrote:
My '07 Fit gets 41 on the highway at around 65 mph, and I average in the mid to high 30's putzing around town depending on the weather.
I have a friend with an Elantra who complains about lousy gas mileage.
The EPA is silly.
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...OR whichever number is higher. I've noticed in the Prius C commercials Toyota mentions the city mileage which (in the case of most of Toyota's hybrids I believe) happens to be more than highway.
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