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NSXman
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Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-19-2012 14:20
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Sounds a bit oxymoron-ish.
VTECRacer
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-19-2012 14:24
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Makes sense to me. It's nearly identical (mechanically), but retuned extensively (ECU + CVT).
NSXman
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-19-2012 14:27
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That may be what is meant, but it isn't what was said. Just saying the 4 words just sounds like an oxymoron. Agree to disagree.
VTECRacer
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-19-2012 14:45
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Different levels of reading comprehension I guess.
NSXman
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 00:36
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I suppose. Funny, I think we can both spell arrogant and jerk pretty good though.
owequitit
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 00:36
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NSXman wrote:
Sounds a bit oxymoron-ish.


Not really. Tuning is vaporware. They can have something that is nearly identical mechanically, but is wholly different from a tuning/use perspective. Increased battery boost, different engine mapping, different gearing etc. All things that they frequently change anyway, without actually changing any of the expensive stuff.
NSXman
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 00:44
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owequitit wrote:
NSXman wrote:
Sounds a bit oxymoron-ish.


Not really. Tuning is vaporware. They can have something that is nearly identical mechanically, but is wholly different from a tuning/use perspective. Increased battery boost, different engine mapping, different gearing etc. All things that they frequently change anyway, without actually changing any of the expensive stuff.



Yeah, I pretty much understand that. I just thought the wording sounded funny. To me identical means swappable.

Despite what you want to say, retuning can also be mechanical.
Ganplosive
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 00:46
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it's ok NSXman, I feel you
VTECRacer
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 00:51
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NSXman wrote:
I suppose. Funny, I think we can both spell arrogant and jerk pretty good though.


That would be spelling though, not reading comprehension ;)
Torque
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 00:52
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Ganplosive wrote:
it's ok NSXman, I feel you


Or what he's really trying to say is he would like to feel you with his crusty and calloused over hands.
Ganplosive
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 01:00
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Torque's just raging because I didn't believe his claims on the internet. I mean how dare anyone question his authority on all that is online, his name is freakin torque for fucks sake.

*rolls eyes

YOU MAD BRO? AY WHY YOU MAD THOUGH?
Torque
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 01:01
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Ganplosive wrote:
Torque's just raging because I didn't believe his claims on the internet. I mean how dare anyone question his authority on all that is online, his name is freakin torque for fucks sake.

*rolls eyes

YOU MAD BRO? AY WHY YOU MAD THOUGH?



No worries bro, I "feel" you.
Ganplosive
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 01:05
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thanks! and I FEEL YOU TOO~~~!
Kool Aid
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 01:36
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Remember the uproar when the preliminary EPA numbers were released? 35 city and 38 highway if I recall. People here had a conniption because the Civic is 44/44. I think this information about 'retuning' may be the first indication why there is such a difference between the two cars.
Ganplosive
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 01:40
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I'm thinking performance at the cost of economy. I hope to god I'm somewhere in the ball park though hahah
Kool Aid
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 02:31
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Ganplosive wrote:
I'm thinking performance at the cost of economy. I hope to god I'm somewhere in the ball park though hahah

I think you need to put 'performance' in quotes...
Ganplosive
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Re: Nearly identical and retuned extensively [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-20-2012 02:38
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oh come on man, this is TOV, when I say performance everyone knows I'm talking about 0-60 in 2.5 seconds and 2g laterals on autocross
 
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