[home][rumors and news][model release matrix][dealer network][desktop calendar][exhaust notes][tov forums][links][search][sponsors][garage][login]

Tire Rack Upgrade Garage
 Search for a Dealer:
 Canadian Flag US Flag
 Honda Acura
 ZIP  
SPIED ON THE STREET: 2017 Odyssey(?)
More.......................
Fresh spy shots of the 2017 Ridgeline
More.......................
New Accord Coupe Touring trim added for 2016!
More.......................
Honda drops Hybrid and CNG Civics and Plug-in Accord from the lineup
More.......................
RC213V-S Officially Unveiled
More.......................
Honda to debut new "Electric SH-AWD" at Pikes Peak
More.......................
First look! 2016 Civic Interior
More.......................
Ever wonder how much a new Civic Type R would cost in Sweden? Here's a quote
More.......................
Photoshops --> Re: Imagined. Legend GS-R
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Question Audi A3
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: The Focus RS reveals 345hp output
Join Discussion......
Civic --> Re: UK still fond of Bagpuss(-R) !
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Replacing parts
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: New A4 details
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Honda BR-V?
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Can Honda handle another Lehman Shock crisis.?
Join Discussion......
NSX --> Re: NSX new info!!! (Development team changing things again?)
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: 2016 Pilot Stop Sale - True?
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Next CRV with 5- and 7-seat versions. Also, Aus sales up in 2015!
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Next generation Toyota GT86 could use Mazda MX-5 platform
Join Discussion......
TOV Asia --> Re: Honda BR-V for Asia
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: See you on the road!
Join Discussion......
HR-V/Vezel --> Re: Big Test: HR-V vs. Rivals
Join Discussion......
TOV Video: 2016 Honda Pilot walkaround with Marc Ernst
Read Article....................
TOV Video: 2016 Honda Pilot First Drive
Read Article....................
2016 Honda Pilot PR Photo Gallery
Read Article....................
2016 Honda HR-V PR Photo Gallery
Read Article....................
TOV Photo Gallery: 2015 New York Auto Show
Read Article....................
Honda S660 PR Photo Gallery
Read Article....................

[fancy] [flat] [simple]
TOV Forums > General Talk > > Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL

Go to:

Viewing Threshold (What is this?)

Thread Page - [1]
Author
  Post New Thread
99SI
Profile for 99SI
'06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-16-2012 14:17
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
How fast is a base TL? My buddy and I were messing around and my accord walked away from a dead stop and a roll every time. I was thinking with 280hp 3.5L and the new 6AT they would be very close.
DCR
Profile for DCR
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2012 13:42
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
It had nothing to do with power...your Accord was simply trying to get away from it before someone saw you together.
TonyEX
Profile for TonyEX
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2012 16:21
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
99SI wrote:
How fast is a base TL? My buddy and I were messing around and my accord walked away from a dead stop and a roll every time. I was thinking with 280hp 3.5L and the new 6AT they would be very close.



OK.... nothing about the '12, but when we owned the 04 TL and leased the 05 Accord MT/V6...

Off the line, it was hard to get the Accord to hook up cleanly because the clutch take up sucked big time.

And once going, the Accord was indeed faster and quicker.

HOWEVER, given a single turn or a single bump on the road, you had to hold onto the Accord while the TL simply went through them with aplomb.

So. off the line, with care, the Accord was faster.

But when the road got twisty, the TL won.

Of course, I did put BS RE750s on the TL which were very sticky -but only lasted 15K miles...

And, our TL was the good looking one... not the Power Plenum'd look.. although it has been toned down lately.

Fast forward.. I think the Hondas have a softer suspension and less steering feel (except the CSI) than the Acuras.
99SI
Profile for 99SI
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2012 20:34
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
I guess the 6mt makes that much of a difference. We both took off at idle so it wasn't like a drop clutch launch. I have also owned a 2008 tl. Handling felt better mostly due to body lean.
99SI
Profile for 99SI
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-18-2012 09:26
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
I guess I am now thinking why did Honda ditch the J30/6MT combo? If this combo was put in a car that was actually tuned to handle this would be the best of both worlds.
JeffX
Profile for JeffX
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-18-2012 16:06
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
99SI wrote:
How fast is a base TL? My buddy and I were messing around and my accord walked away from a dead stop and a roll every time. I was thinking with 280hp 3.5L and the new 6AT they would be very close.


I tested a '12 TL a couple weeks ago - it ran 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. Traction-limited, 6AT 3.5.

The tl with the tech pkg weighs over 3700lbs, iirc, which makes it about 400 lbs heavier than the Accord V6MT. The real difference in output is probably less than 30hp, and the difference at the wheels is probably on the order of 10-15hp.
TonyEX
Profile for TonyEX
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-18-2012 16:47
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
99SI wrote:
I guess I am now thinking why did Honda ditch the J30/6MT combo? If this combo was put in a car that was actually tuned to handle this would be the best of both worlds.


Quite true, I NEVER felt like that car lacked power. The J30 revv'ed to redline like crazy. We had just come off the RSX-S so I was really used to ripping up to redline and in the begining I'd run the J30 into the rev limiter quite often.

The suspension did need more roll control and a stiffer rebound.. And the steering was overboosted... the combination going through a corner was that if you hit a bump then you'd wiggle in your seat and twitched the steering wheel...

Really, instead of having gone to the J35 and VCM, AHM should have kept the J30 with real VTEC and introduced an AT6 into the line.
 
Thread Page - [1]
Go to:
Contact TOV | Submit Your Article | Submit Your Link | Advertise | TOV Shop | Events | Our Sponsors | TOV Archives
Copyright © 2014 Velocitech Inc. All information contained herein remains the property of Velocitech Inc.
The Temple of VTEC is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Co., Inc. TOV Policies and Guidelines - Credits - Privacy Policy
mobile: 0