[home][rumors and news][model release matrix][dealer network][desktop calendar][exhaust notes][tov forums][links][search][sponsors][garage][login]

Tire Rack Upgrade Garage
 Search for a Dealer:
 Canadian Flag US Flag
 Honda Acura
 ZIP  
Honda HR-V Compact SUV to Join All-New 2015 Fit as Honda Expands Small Car Lineup
More.......................
Some thoughts, photos, and notes on the 2015 Acura TLX from the NYIAS show floor
More.......................
2015 Acura TLX Unveiled at the 2014 New York International Auto Show
More.......................
Video: TOV member catches a TLX prototype on dashcam!
More.......................
All New 2015 Honda Fit Designed to Top the Subcompact Class
More.......................
Honda set to show interesting new Concept at Beijing International Automotive Exhibition
More.......................
'HR-V' name confirmed for upcoming Fit-based 'urban sport utility'
More.......................
American Honda Announces Sales Results for March 2014
More.......................
General Talk --> New Acura Boss Maps TurnAround
Join Discussion......
Repair and Maintenance --> Re: 2008 Accord V6 T-Belt
Join Discussion......
Prelude --> Re: 2016 Honda Prelude for the American Market?
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: If there was a TLX Wagon
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Remote Windows-Open Feature
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Beijing Auto Show updates...
Join Discussion......
MDX --> 2015 MDX
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Place your bets-TLX. Fit, HR-V sales
Join Discussion......
RDX --> Re: Direct Injection
Join Discussion......
RDX --> Re: 2016 RDX Upgrade Predictions
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Push button start SUCKS
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Crosstour's next-generation enemy: 2015 Subaru Outback
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: USA Today article about Acura
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Honda set for a rocky road ahead in Europe
Join Discussion......
MDX --> Re: 2014 MDX Reviews
Join Discussion......
TOV Photo Gallery: 2015 Honda Fit
Read Article....................
PR Photo Gallery: 2015 Honda Fit
Read Article....................
TOV Dyno Test: 2014 Accord Hybrid
Read Article....................
TOV Video: 2015 Acura TLX design Overview by Jared Hall
Read Article....................
PR Photo Gallery: 2014 Acura RLX Sport Hybrid
Read Article....................
PR Photo Gallery: 2015 Civic Type R Prototype
Read Article....................

[fancy] [flat] [simple]
TOV Forums > General Talk > > Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL

Go to:

Viewing Threshold (What is this?)

Thread Page - [1]
Author
  Post New Thread
99SI
Profile for 99SI
'06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-16-2012 14:17
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
How fast is a base TL? My buddy and I were messing around and my accord walked away from a dead stop and a roll every time. I was thinking with 280hp 3.5L and the new 6AT they would be very close.
DCR
Profile for DCR
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2012 13:42
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
It had nothing to do with power...your Accord was simply trying to get away from it before someone saw you together.
TonyEX
Profile for TonyEX
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2012 16:21
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
99SI wrote:
How fast is a base TL? My buddy and I were messing around and my accord walked away from a dead stop and a roll every time. I was thinking with 280hp 3.5L and the new 6AT they would be very close.



OK.... nothing about the '12, but when we owned the 04 TL and leased the 05 Accord MT/V6...

Off the line, it was hard to get the Accord to hook up cleanly because the clutch take up sucked big time.

And once going, the Accord was indeed faster and quicker.

HOWEVER, given a single turn or a single bump on the road, you had to hold onto the Accord while the TL simply went through them with aplomb.

So. off the line, with care, the Accord was faster.

But when the road got twisty, the TL won.

Of course, I did put BS RE750s on the TL which were very sticky -but only lasted 15K miles...

And, our TL was the good looking one... not the Power Plenum'd look.. although it has been toned down lately.

Fast forward.. I think the Hondas have a softer suspension and less steering feel (except the CSI) than the Acuras.
99SI
Profile for 99SI
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2012 20:34
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
I guess the 6mt makes that much of a difference. We both took off at idle so it wasn't like a drop clutch launch. I have also owned a 2008 tl. Handling felt better mostly due to body lean.
99SI
Profile for 99SI
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-18-2012 09:26
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
I guess I am now thinking why did Honda ditch the J30/6MT combo? If this combo was put in a car that was actually tuned to handle this would be the best of both worlds.
JeffX
Profile for JeffX
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-18-2012 16:06
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
99SI wrote:
How fast is a base TL? My buddy and I were messing around and my accord walked away from a dead stop and a roll every time. I was thinking with 280hp 3.5L and the new 6AT they would be very close.


I tested a '12 TL a couple weeks ago - it ran 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. Traction-limited, 6AT 3.5.

The tl with the tech pkg weighs over 3700lbs, iirc, which makes it about 400 lbs heavier than the Accord V6MT. The real difference in output is probably less than 30hp, and the difference at the wheels is probably on the order of 10-15hp.
TonyEX
Profile for TonyEX
Re: '06 6MT accord vs. '12 Base TL    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-18-2012 16:47
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
99SI wrote:
I guess I am now thinking why did Honda ditch the J30/6MT combo? If this combo was put in a car that was actually tuned to handle this would be the best of both worlds.


Quite true, I NEVER felt like that car lacked power. The J30 revv'ed to redline like crazy. We had just come off the RSX-S so I was really used to ripping up to redline and in the begining I'd run the J30 into the rev limiter quite often.

The suspension did need more roll control and a stiffer rebound.. And the steering was overboosted... the combination going through a corner was that if you hit a bump then you'd wiggle in your seat and twitched the steering wheel...

Really, instead of having gone to the J35 and VCM, AHM should have kept the J30 with real VTEC and introduced an AT6 into the line.
 
Thread Page - [1]
Go to:
Contact TOV | Submit Your Article | Submit Your Link | Advertise | TOV Shop | Events | Our Sponsors | TOV Archives
Copyright © 2014 Velocitech Inc. All information contained herein remains the property of Velocitech Inc.
The Temple of VTEC is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Co., Inc. TOV Policies and Guidelines - Credits - Privacy Policy