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bblueser
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Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-14-2012 13:37
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Having driven both the '12 EX and Si, I believe Honda should concentrate on changing the following items on this fall's refresh:
1) Change the upper portion of the dash to the European design, which has an attractive, slightly rounded profile instead of the US model's awkward flat-top look.
2) Change the seat fabric so the quality is similar to cloth seats in the '06 Ex Coupe.
3) Reduce road and tire noise
4) Change some hard surfaces inside to soft-feel material
5) On the Si interior, get rid of the "blingy" chrome trim
6) Install a high-quality headliner
7) Redo the gauges to eliminate the boy-racer VTEC indicator, etc
8) Redo the suspension to provide European-style ride and handling

I could add other items, but you get the idea.

Honda blew it on the '12s and I hope they find their way on the '13s. If Hyundai/Kia learns how to design cars that are reliable and drive as good as they look, Honda and Toyota are in trouble.

Oh, and I hope Honda hasn't botched the '13 Accord due this fall.
xBeastx
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-07-2012 21:12
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bblueser wrote:
Having driven both the '12 EX and Si, I believe Honda should concentrate on changing the following items on this fall's refresh:
1) Change the upper portion of the dash to the European design, which has an attractive, slightly rounded profile instead of the US model's awkward flat-top look.
2) Change the seat fabric so the quality is similar to cloth seats in the '06 Ex Coupe.
3) Reduce road and tire noise
4) Change some hard surfaces inside to soft-feel material
5) On the Si interior, get rid of the "blingy" chrome trim
6) Install a high-quality headliner
7) Redo the gauges to eliminate the boy-racer VTEC indicator, etc
8) Redo the suspension to provide European-style ride and handling

I could add other items, but you get the idea.

Honda blew it on the '12s and I hope they find their way on the '13s. If Hyundai/Kia learns how to design cars that are reliable and drive as good as they look, Honda and Toyota are in trouble.

Oh, and I hope Honda hasn't botched the '13 Accord due this fall.



OR Honda could just sell the 2012 Euro Civic in every market. It's just better and more practical in every aspect.

Kind of like the One Ford program where Ford is slowly combining all of its markets. Examples of this are the Escape/Kuga, Fusion/Mondeo, Focus, and the upcoming Transit vans which will replace the E series.

One Honda...maybe? Haha
superchg2
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-08-2012 00:24
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bblueser wrote:
Having driven both the '12 EX and Si, I believe Honda should concentrate on changing the following items on this fall's refresh:
1) Change the upper portion of the dash to the European design, which has an attractive, slightly rounded profile instead of the US model's awkward flat-top look.
2) Change the seat fabric so the quality is similar to cloth seats in the '06 Ex Coupe.
3) Reduce road and tire noise
4) Change some hard surfaces inside to soft-feel material
5) On the Si interior, get rid of the "blingy" chrome trim
6) Install a high-quality headliner
7) Redo the gauges to eliminate the boy-racer VTEC indicator, etc
8) Redo the suspension to provide European-style ride and handling

I could add other items, but you get the idea.

Honda blew it on the '12s and I hope they find their way on the '13s. If Hyundai/Kia learns how to design cars that are reliable and drive as good as they look, Honda and Toyota are in trouble.

Oh, and I hope Honda hasn't botched the '13 Accord due this fall.


You never know which way the wind is blowing on TOV!

We just got done with the topic about the guy (wtng4my06si) who loves his new 2012 Si!
A77
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-08-2012 00:57
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There's nothing wrong with the Civic's ride and handling. Only consumer reports has said it is choppy, which presumably means they want it softer than it already is. But I'll agree on all the other points. I think the old Civic Sport had the nicest seats - half way to the Si.
Kongming
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-10-2012 13:58
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I personally wouldn't mind the new Euro Civic. I think it looks pretty good.

And yea I've tested the new Civic.. the ride is alright to me.
Jacky
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-10-2012 15:03
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bblueser wrote:
Having driven both the '12 EX and Si, I believe Honda should concentrate on changing the following items on this fall's refresh:
1) Change the upper portion of the dash to the European design, which has an attractive, slightly rounded profile instead of the US model's awkward flat-top look.
2) Change the seat fabric so the quality is similar to cloth seats in the '06 Ex Coupe.
3) Reduce road and tire noise
4) Change some hard surfaces inside to soft-feel material
5) On the Si interior, get rid of the "blingy" chrome trim
6) Install a high-quality headliner
7) Redo the gauges to eliminate the boy-racer VTEC indicator, etc
8) Redo the suspension to provide European-style ride and handling

I could add other items, but you get the idea.

Honda blew it on the '12s and I hope they find their way on the '13s. If Hyundai/Kia learns how to design cars that are reliable and drive as good as they look, Honda and Toyota are in trouble.

Oh, and I hope Honda hasn't botched the '13 Accord due this fall.


5) On the Si interior, get rid of the "blingy" chrome trim
What the heck does #5 even mean? Seems contradictory to your wishlist and I do not remember much chrome in there besides the pedals. I think the Vtec indicator is cool, but I think the Power Monitor is completely useless. It will be interesting to see what Honda changes in it. I bet most of the changes will be subtle.
DCR
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-10-2012 15:52
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Depends if you were in the sedan or coupe. The coupe has some bright silver/chrome on the doors that would be much better satin.
typer_801
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-10-2012 17:26
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I've always thought the Tach and Speedo should be flip-flopped in the cluster in the Si. I know it will never happen, but from a driver's perspective the Tach is much more important and it would be much better in the higher location.
JeffX
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-10-2012 18:40
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typer_801 wrote:
I've always thought the Tach and Speedo should be flip-flopped in the cluster in the Si. I know it will never happen, but from a driver's perspective the Tach is much more important and it would be much better in the higher location.



this could be achieved if they just went to dual LCDs - then the end user could flip flop them all they want. Speedo up high for when cruising around town and across the countryside, trying to stay legal, and tach up high when you want to go punish a circuit.
Farage1
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Re: Civic Redo    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-10-2012 22:02
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After living with the interior for 6 months, the only things that bother me is the armrest on the driver's door could be a little softer / thicker and the power monitor on the i-mid is utterly useless. Other than that, it is ok... The lack of a temperature gauge baffles me.
 
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