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http://wapo.st/zGshgy
Interesting article.
Does it make "perceived quality" more important?
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Nick GravesX
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Interesting indeed.
Especially since Japanese reliability (over here) seems to be slipping.
Long-term durability is harder to assess; by the time people relise it, it's ceased to be important.
But yes, you are right; the only real advantage the Teir 2s have is PQ and if THAT starts filtering down, they are in trouble like the Teir 3s!
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6SPDTL
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I dont think Japanese quality is slipping, It just that others are catching up, except, of course europeans, which in general still have worse reliability than anyone else.
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MarkR
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6SPDTL wrote:
I dont think Japanese quality is slipping, It just that others are catching up, except, of course europeans, which in general still have worse reliability than anyone else.
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Why "of course europeans"? I feel Audis and BMWs are equally good the first 3-4years, I have never had a car older than 5 so cannot really say what happens after that.
Sounds like hearsay and rumors, the same way most of my colleagues hate japanese cars because they think they drive like sh*t... but so wrong they are.
Please don't generalize, it kills this interesting forum.
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6SPDTL
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Of the european brands, VW and audi have mediocre to poor reliabilty, MB is trash and BMW's only reliable vehicle is the 3 series, and that one is midpack ampong other brands. Range Rover and Jaguar are pure unadulterated crap, must I continue? In general, european brands are as reliable as detroit was in the bad old days.
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Nick GravesX
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If you looks at recent JD powers, teh EU Civ has slipped (so has the US one) & the Germans have improved somewhat.
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gogzy
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6SPDTL wrote:
Of the european brands, VW and audi have mediocre to poor reliabilty, MB is trash and BMW's only reliable vehicle is the 3 series, and that one is midpack ampong other brands. Range Rover and Jaguar are pure unadulterated crap, must I continue? In general, european brands are as reliable as detroit was in the bad old days.
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and I always found their sales number a little too high to my expectation...
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6SPDTL
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JD Powers has improved a little over the years, it used to be purely promotional (till a few years ago). I still trust CR's long term database by long shot.
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